Chapter 810 Gorshkov Frigate
A design bureau that has not designed a new warship in ten years has come up with a tall design in order to win the bid. It looks unique, but does the navy dare to use it?
If Mr. Qin hadn’t reminded him, something big would have happened to that mast!
Let’s look at this one designed by Mingzhou Group. Although it’s not very impressive, it’s obviously the safest solution.
Yang Dawei has finished his introduction, and now it’s time to comment.
"Both options are already before our eyes. Now, I believe everyone has their own opinions on which option should be chosen. Now, let's study which one should be used." Nicholas said: "Moiseyev, tell me, after all, after the first warship is built, it will fall into your fleet."
Moiseyev's expression was a little embarrassed. He looked at Shishkin, then at Qin Tao, and then said: "First of all, the design plans of the two warships are good and we are very satisfied with them. However, in many details We still need to pay attention to this aspect. For example, our Northern Fleet mainly operates in the waters near the Arctic Ocean, where it often faces various extreme weather conditions. Therefore, if the mast is too high, it may make the center of gravity of our warships unstable. Especially since it is equipped with a four-sided phased array radar, it is better for us to use a mature solution."
"Your Excellency Moiseyev, our plan is already very mature. If the position of the four-sided phased array radar is too high, we can completely lower it. However, the Eastern design is immature. They are designing At that time, we didn't even arrange the matching missiles!" Shishkin was worried.
Before coming to the meeting, Shishkin not only presided over the design work, but also contacted many senior military officials. The first person he contacted was Moiseev. Logically speaking, everyone worked in the same place. We should help each other.
Who is immature? of course? Of course it’s an Oriental project! The weapon systems are all reserved, so this is clearly a semi-finished product!
"We reserve it mainly to give the navy more choices. Isn't modularity popular now? You can think of these reserved places as modular spaces, and you can install whatever you need in the future." Qin Tao said: "After all, we were not originally responsible for these projects, and you probably don't allow us to have access to too many secrets. If we don't reserve them, is there any other way?"
Shishkin almost spit out a mouthful of old blood. Originally, he thought that he knew the domestic military products and could easily match them, which was a huge advantage. But he didn't expect that in Qin Tao's case, it would be useless at all! They reserve it directly, and Da Mao can pretend to be whatever he wants!
Is this mature or immature?
Moiseyev had already expressed his opinion. Nicholas nodded with great satisfaction, and then looked at the second man: "Nosatov, where is your Baltic Fleet? You don't need to deal with strong winds and waves. Which plan do you think is more suitable? "
Nosatov stood up hesitantly. Yes, he also agreed to Shishkin and tried his best to support Shishkin's plan. But now, he seems to have understood the situation at the scene. If he still follows his original idea If so, I will probably be wearing small shoes in the future.
"Yes, our Baltic Fleet does not need to deal with strong winds and waves. However, our fleet is small after all. If we build a warship specifically for us to meet the needs of our fleet, I am afraid it would not be appropriate. Moreover, once our fleet is in need, Also support other fleets.”
Nosatov lowered his head and did not look at Shishkin's expression. He could only apologize secretly in his heart. I'm sorry, it's useless even if I support it. The minority obeys the majority. After I finish speaking, it will be my turn. The Pacific Fleet has spoken. The Pacific Fleet is Nicholas's base camp and will definitely support his proposition.
Shishkin’s face became increasingly ugly.
The person in charge of the Pacific Fleet stood up: "Over the years, we have seen the Mingzhou Group develop and develop advanced warships one after another. The stealth warship is their first creation, and they have the richest experience. Now, we are sure that Mingzhou Group will The specially designed warships given to us by the State Group must be the most suitable for the needs of our navy. We request that a second warship of the same model be equipped to the Pacific Fleet. Our fleet has not received a brand-new warship for a long time."
For Da Mao, the most important thing is Europe, so their Northern Fleet is the well-deserved leader. However, in addition to the Northern Fleet, the next one is the Pacific Fleet, so they also require to receive brand-new warships!
And they made it clear directly: We want warships, and we want warships designed by Mingzhou Group!
Shishkin knew that in this meeting, he became a complete loser. Without the support of a fleet, his team returned without success. Next, the Northern Design Bureau is afraid that it will be disbanded!
However, just when he was disappointed, a voice spoke.
"The Mingzhou Group's design is indeed the most suitable for our navy. We need to adopt the Mingzhou Group's design plan. However, this design plan still has deficiencies in the weapon system. Therefore, we hope that the Mingzhou Group can hand over the complete set of design drawings. The Northern Design Bureau, the Northern Design Bureau will improve the weapon system."
This person was sent by the big boss. He was responsible for supervising the bidding. He was also responsible for saying such words after the failure of the Northern Design Bureau.
For the proud Northern Design Bureau, they disdain to plagiarize other people's designs. However, there is no weapon system in the Eastern design, and it is impossible for the Mao Navy to want an empty ship without weapons, so it also has a legitimate reasons, and asked Mingzhou Group to hand over the design drawings to the Northern Design Bureau.
Shishkin had mixed feelings in his heart. He never expected that the Northern Design Bureau would be reduced to helping others modify the design drawings. However, he could not refuse it yet. If he refused this project, then they might not have any projects in the future.
They can only accept it, but will the Easterners agree?
"Of course, no problem. We can hand over the design drawings to the Northern Design Bureau and let them improve the weapon system. After the hull is built and your supporting units have completed the research and development of the weapons, they can assemble it. By then, the warship The power system has also been installed, and we can completely deliver the hull to you, and you will perform the final assembly yourself."
"Yes, that's it." Shishkin nodded. In this way, their Northern Design Bureau can also occupy a larger share of warship production.
“Well, significant progress was made in this morning’s meeting. Our 2230 frigate project has officially completed the design. Now, the Navy has named the first warship Gorshkov!”
When hearing this name, everyone had mixed emotions.
Gorshkov, the most important admiral of the Navy, it was during his tenure that the Navy developed greatly, so in memory of him, the Navy named the heavy-duty aircraft-carrying cruiser with a displacement of more than 40,000 tons. Gorshkov, but now, that warship has long been decommissioned.
Generally speaking, only warships with tens of thousands of tons will use the names of generals. This is to commemorate the heroes and let the sailors remember the history. But now, General Gorshkov’s name is actually only hung on the four sides of a ship. On the frigate of 1,500 tons, the displacement has shrunk to one-tenth of its original size!
However, for the Damao Navy, naming it this way also has profound meaning. After all, although the brand-new frigate is small, it represents the beginning of a new era!
“Let’s stop here for now and hold a new meeting when we go down.”
Are there any new meetings in the afternoon? Shishkin looked at Mutisin. Was he really here for something else?
You can't drink alcohol at noon, so everyone can only eat something. However, at the dinner, everyone was still very excited and discussed the next development of the navy.
“This time, our navy needs at least 18 frigates for the 22,350 frigates, six for each fleet. This is enough!”
“Our aircraft carrier fleet needs two more ships!”
“The 22350 frigate is an all-rounder at sea and can perform various tasks. Unfortunately, the displacement is still too small.”
Why is the displacement limited to 4,500 tons? It’s not because of poverty! They simply don't have the funds to build large warships, which makes Lao Maozi very unhappy. You know, among their previous navies, the most common ones were the seven- to eight-thousand-ton Dreadnought-class and Modern-class warships, which were both large warships. Now, they are Forced to use small warships.
“This is simple. As long as we have money in the future, we can expand the displacement of the current 22350 frigate!”
"Our existing old ships can also be upgraded through mid-term overhaul, and they cannot be wasted." I don't know who said this, but this sentence reminded Shishkin that Mutisin was once the chief designer of the cruiser. Is he here to help improve the cruiser?
The navy has gone too far. Why don't we leave this improvement task to us? Our Northern Design Bureau is the design unit for warships. We can definitely improve the design of cruisers. Why do you want to find people from the East?
In naval equipment, the Dreadnought class is constantly being retired, but part of the Modern class is still retained. This is of course because the Modern class is boiler-burning and has low operating costs.
However, the navy is still trying its best to retain those large warships, including the Glorious class and the Kirov class. These are the glory of the former Red Empire.
Shishkin was very unhappy. Their jobs were repeatedly robbed. However, they also knew that they had no other choice. It was good to receive the task of improving the 22350 frigate weapon system now. They could not interfere with other projects. task, and if one were to intervene, one would not necessarily do it better than the Orientals.
afternoon.
"This afternoon's meeting is mainly about the transformation of the cruiser. First of all, please introduce the improvements of the 1144-type cruiser to the Mingzhou Group." Nicholas said to everyone on the rostrum. This sentence immediately shocked those who didn't know Real people.
Type 1144 cruiser, a super battleship with a displacement of 25,000 tons! Who would have thought that our own side would actually want to improve a warship of this level!
But how come the improvement work was left to Easterners to design? Shishkin was still dissatisfied. In this mood, he saw Mutisin stand up from his seat and walk towards the speaking position.
Sure enough, Mutisin came for this project!
"The first big problem with the Type 1144 cruiser is the power system. In order to drive this super battleship, designers used a nuclear power system. However, many people ignored the reliability of the nuclear power system, resulting in this cruiser It is obviously in its prime, but it is lying down due to power problems. In order to rejuvenate the Type 1144 cruiser, we plan to equip it with two 40-megawatt gas turbines..."
When he heard this, Shishkin was only surprised. Replacing gas turbines? Using a gas turbine to drive a 25,000-ton ship? This unscientific!
"How to solve the problem of intake and exhaust? There is no reserved flue inside the hull!" Shishkin couldn't help but raise the question. He was not embarrassing his former superior, he was just a little confused.
“The two gas turbines are deployed directly under the flue, so that the distance is the shortest and can meet the intake and exhaust of the gas turbine.” Mutisin replied.
“Deployed directly under the flue? Then the distance from the gas turbine to the propeller will be very long. Such a long drive shaft will not only cause power loss, but also cause vibration of the ship body!"
Generally speaking, engines are arranged at the very end of the hull. The shorter the distance between the drive shafts, the better. The transmission efficiency is high and the vibration is small. A long drive shaft is every designer’s nightmare. Do the Orientals want to use this? A way to monopolize the improvements of the Type 1144 cruiser? After all, only Dongfang can process and install drive shafts with high enough precision.
Mutisin nodded: "Yes, there is a long distance from the engine to the propeller at the tail. Therefore, our best way is to use an all-electric propulsion solution. All the power of the gas turbine is used to generate electricity. Electricity drives the motor in the tail.”
When the drive shaft is turned into a cable, the problem is solved.
"All-electric propulsion? No, this is too risky." Shishkin shook his head: "We can't use such an unreliable solution. Our modification is not easy, we must be safe!"
"Why is it so unreliable? Mr. Shishkin, you are the chief designer of the Northern Design Bureau, have you always been working behind closed doors? Now, all-electric propulsion has long become the mainstream." Qin Tao said below: "We The aircraft carrier built for the big dog owners is planned to use an all-electric propulsion solution. The aircraft carriers and destroyers designed by the British all use all-electric propulsion solutions. In this way, the power of the whole ship can be comprehensively distributed, which requires high speed. Just output the power to the drive system. If it is needed for combat, the power will be distributed to other systems. In the future, even if there is an electromagnetic gun, it can be used. Take the current cruiser as an example. We plan to use two gas turbines and two Driven by a diesel engine, in the past, these two engines with different speeds had to work separately. Now that the power is transmitted through electricity, they can work together. When the four engines are added together, the output power will reach 120,000 horsepower! Low speed When using it, even just one diesel engine is enough. Having said so much, you should be able to appreciate how flexible it is, right?"
Shishkin’s face looks ugly, is he out of date?
The ship-wide integrated power system is indeed a very popular thing in recent years, but in Shishkin's eyes, it always feels that this thing is still far from practicality, and it is estimated that it will take a long time to be used on warships. Now, Dongfang People have actually put this thing to use!
Since Dongfang has begun to provide equipment for aircraft carriers, it seems that there is nothing wrong with using it on cruisers.
"Excuse me, if we adopt this system, how much will it cost?" Moiseyev asked. He couldn't wait for a long time. Even if only one ship is modified, it can bring the navy's combat effectiveness to a higher level. The current All Type 1144 cruisers are in a sleepy state.
Since the first Gorshkov was handed over to the Mingzhou Group for construction, they saved some funds. They don’t know whether these funds will be enough to renovate the cruiser.
“Excluding the dismantling of the original nuclear power system, the installation of gas turbines, generators, drive motors, and the replacement of cables throughout the ship, the cost is US$100 million,” Qin Tao said.
It’s really not expensive, it’s much cheaper than the cost of modifying it for a big dog owner. However, this number still surprised everyone present.
“One hundred million US dollars, why is it so expensive!”
“Yes, with this money, we can start building a 22350!”
"Everyone, the Type 1144 cruiser is a giant ship of 25,000 tons. Its biggest problem currently is that the power system is unreliable. As long as the power system is replaced, this kind of warship can regain its vitality." Qin Tao said: "You guys It’s impossible not to have professional sword-carrying escorts around your aircraft carrier. Only one Peter the Great is not enough. Upgrading more cruisers is the most suitable option for you.”
Not to mention other weapon systems, just upgrading the power system would cost so much money. They simply can't afford it!
Nicholas also frowned: "Mr. Qin, with our current strength, we really cannot afford the high maintenance costs of such a warship."
They originally only planned to improve the air defense system, but now they have to disembowel themselves and perform a major surgery, which costs a lot of money, which they cannot afford.
"Yes, if you don't have money, you will definitely not be able to complete the renovation. Now you have to solve the problem of making money. Have you ever thought about selling one of them?"
As soon as these words came out, many people became wary. What is Mr. Qin going to do? Is he trying to trick himself into selling the giant ship in this way? Do they want to get this kind of giant ship of their own? Absolutely not!
Seeing everyone's wary gazes, Qin Tao smiled: "Everyone, you have also seen our progress over the years. Our navy has entered the era of Aegis battleships. Although the displacement is not very high, its combat performance is first-class. "With all due respect, it is not cost-effective for us to purchase old ships. If necessary, it would be more appropriate for us to build brand-new warships ourselves."
Shishkin felt very sad.
The old Type 1144 cruiser is still a treasure here in Da Mao, but in the eyes of the Orientals, it is no longer valued. Moreover, they are not wrong. It is indeed the case. The Orientals have already developed more advanced warship design and construction. Ability, I definitely look down on this kind of modified goods.
“Mr. Qin, what do you mean?”
“Of course we need to sell this kind of warship to the right customers. You can think about it, who in the world wants advanced naval equipment but does not have the relevant R&D and construction capabilities?”
“You mean Asan?”
If Qin Tao suggested selling this kind of warship to Ah San, there would be nothing to say. It must not be out of selfishness, because letting Ah San obtain such a powerful warship is definitely not in the interests of the East.
However, why would Mr. Qin suggest this?
Nicholas was stunned for a moment, and then realized it. Qin was a principled person. When he wanted to sell the equipment to Ah San, he must have done it to trick Ah San, just like the Chaori King last time. Just like the aircraft carrier, Ah San never used it after buying it, but this incident also stimulated Ah San. After that, Ah San would rather build the aircraft carrier by himself than buy a second-hand aircraft carrier from Lao Maozi and renovate it.
Now, changed to a cruiser? How are you planning to trick Ah San?
For Qin Tao, it was too easy to trick Asan. The integrated power system of the whole ship was working well when tested by Lao Maozi and there would be no problems. But in the tropics, the brakes frequently dropped due to the temperature. That was also It's normal. After all, we haven't considered this situation.
No matter how many missiles there are on the Kirov-class cruiser, if the whole ship loses power, it will be useless. Qin Tao is not worried. However, Ah San has been fooled one after another. I really don’t know if he will continue to be fooled this time.
Qin Tao is only responsible for making suggestions. If Ah San is interested in this warship, it will cost hundreds of millions of dollars. This will definitely hinder Ah San’s other naval projects. It can be said that this method is used to delay Ah San’s naval progress. Yes, Qin Tao has always spared no effort in this aspect.
"That's right, it's Ah San. You are still doubting whether our design is mature. Let's just let Ah San pay for the experiment and transform the first Type 1144 cruiser. Anyway, that one is dead. If you are satisfied after the transformation, then with the money provided by Asan, the No. 2 and No. 3 ships can complete the power system transformation, and your navy will have two reliable cruisers. As for the Peter the Great, it will definitely be done in the future We will also face power issues, which need to be improved.”
The Kirov has been docked at the dock since its power system failed in 1990. It has been exposed to wind and sun over the years and is in very poor condition. They have not even thought about repairing it. If they sell this warship in exchange for money, they can repair it. As for the other two ships, it’s really a solution!
“However, since last time, Ah San has had doubts about refitting second-hand warships, and may not be able to cooperate with us!” said the officer from the Far East.
“Well, it depends on our efforts. The relationship between the Northern Design Bureau and Asan should be good, right?” Qin Tao looked at Shishkin.
(End of this chapter)