Chapter 806 Agree even with conditions
Now, everything is in order.
The guys started discussing the 22350 warship project. They were so excited that they actually forgot the theme of the meeting: they wanted to persuade the Orientals to only charge 400 million in salvage fees, and the last 100 million would be used to build warships!
However, the Easterners insist on 500 million, which creates a contradiction.
Now, the contradiction has been solved!
500 million to the East. The warships they need will be built by the East!
In this way, both parties suffered a bit, and both parties seemed to have taken advantage. Negotiations should have been like this. However, for some reason, some people were still in a daze. This was the end of the negotiation. Does it fit?
“Mr. Qin, if we provide these equipment, it will still cost money. What we want is not to spend any money.”
"Then use our weapons and equipment." Qin Tao's answer was simple: "We can no longer spend money to purchase your equipment. In short, our transaction fee is 500 million, not a penny less, we can make it for you The displacement of a frigate cannot exceed 4,500 tons, and you choose the equipment yourself!"
“Mr. Qin, is this your final decision?”
"Yes."
"Well, how about we have a meeting to discuss it first, and then report it to you when we have the results?"
Qin Tao nodded: "Okay, then I will go to the Bolshoi Theater to watch the ballet performance first. Xiaoling, let's go."
As Qin Tao's secretary, Zhao Ling also attended the meeting, but she said nothing and quietly played the role of secretary. Now that the meeting is over, it is time for the two of them to relax.
Xu Zhengyang was waiting outside. The three of them went out together, got in the car, and went to the Grand Theater to watch the ballet.
Zhao Ling did not speak. She just looked at Qin Tao's confident face and knew that there was no problem. After all, the most critical issue now is money. Without the participation of Mingzhou Group, Lao Maozi would not be able to get the money at all. Without money, How can Lao Maozi build warships?
There was already a debate in the conference room.
“Our domestic shipbuilding industry is all waiting for the construction contract of this warship. If the construction contract is handed over to Mingzhou Group now, they will all be disappointed.”
"Yes, they are waiting. They still have many holes to fill. Our budget of 100 million US dollars is definitely not enough. It would be good if 4 to 5 billion US dollars can meet their needs. Everyone, our navy is also short of money. We Why not get the most advanced warship at the lowest cost?"
"Hmph, if you ask me, it would be better if we just got the money and sent out a salvage ship to show off. Then we can find any excuse to shirk the responsibility and take the $500 million into our own mouths. Wouldn't that be better? "
It can be said that this plan is the most explosive. When he heard this statement, even Nicholas was stunned, cruel, this is really cruel!
"No, we can't do this, it will damage our national reputation! Any business we do internationally in the future will be boycotted. How can customers do business with us if they think that we have cheated them this time? Years ago, they just forgot about how we tricked Ah San, do we want them to recall these unbearable past events again?" Someone immediately expressed their opposition.
Once international prestige is gone, all roads will become narrower and narrower.
“Recall is recall, what are we afraid of? We are bears, who are we afraid of?”
There was a quarrel among the people. Nicholas saw that it would not be a problem if it continued like this, so he said: "Everyone, our time is precious. I think we should vote by a show of hands!"
If the quarrel continues like this, there will be no resolution for half a month. The customer over there is still waiting to salvage the submarine!
“Okay, I support the Mingzhou Group in building us the most powerful warship!”
“I support it too!”
Several people who had pledged their support in advance immediately raised their hands, but others were still hesitating. Seeing this, Nicholas slowly raised his right hand: "As the leader of the navy, my first consideration is The interests of the navy, followed by the interests of the shipbuilding industry, I also support, let the Orientals help us build a warship!"
Well, the dust has settled after this statement. Everyone is working under Nikolai. Nikolai agrees, but they don't agree. Isn't this going against Nikolai? Nikolai got to this position not just by qualifications!
"I agree!"
"I agree!"
The last few also raised their hands.
“Okay, since we voted unanimously, let’s move on to the next topic. What weapon systems do we need to install on this warship? What does the East provide us? What do we provide? Once everything is negotiated, I will report to my superiors.”
This matter cannot be decided directly by the navy. After all, it affects the entire country, so the decision must be made by the big boss.
"In terms of anti-aircraft missiles, we use the S400 for the best modification. The biggest feature of this anti-aircraft missile system is that it not only has long-range missiles with a range of more than 200 kilometers, but also medium-range missiles with a range of dozens of kilometers. Our navy needs a This is a brand-new launcher that can be loaded with different missiles at will to meet diversified needs."
Although the 22350 frigate has been announced, many people know that without enough funds, their warships will not be on the right track, so when designing, they are also unscrupulous and want to put in all kinds of high-end equipment. .
Among them, the most popular one is of course the S-400. This anti-aircraft missile system was developed just this year. It was originally called S-300PMU3, but I felt that the changes were too big, so I simply gave it a new number: S-400. .(These are still in English, Russian should be C300ПМУ3, C400.)
Of course, the Lao Maozi Navy has also taken a fancy to this kind of air defense missile system. Its biggest feature is that it integrates regional air defense, terminal low-level anti-missile, and short-range and ultra-low-altitude interception capabilities. It can deal with various targets, including reconnaissance from high altitudes. From aircraft to high-speed medium- and short-range ballistic missiles, from hypersonic targets to ultra-low-altitude targets, there is nothing it cannot hit.
When it arrives, the Lao Maozi Navy will give this missile a brand new name, called the Rudot ship-to-air missile system.
In the past, Lao Maozi's air defense missiles were completely independent. There were long-range S-300F, medium-range 3K90 (Shikili), short-range 3K95 (Dagger), etc. All kinds of missile systems were independent. Radar, a separate console, is simply not compatible.
They have long realized that this system has serious problems, so they are also looking forward to changes. This Rudot, developed from the land-based S-400 missile, is their best choice.
This air defense system has as many as eight types of missiles. You can load them however you want when using them. It has completely reached the level of the American MK41. However, the key to this thing is still a PPT project.
"Do you think it is enough time to equip our warships with a missile system that has just begun to be developed? Mingzhou Group is very fast. It can build the warship hulls we need in a year and a half. Come out, what's next? Do we have to wait?" Someone immediately objected: "I think we should use a mature missile system. Now that we already have Shikili's vertical launch system, we can definitely install this The system can fight at any time, and Dongfang’s 054 also uses this missile system, and they have mature experience.”
"No, this kind of missile is too backward. The key is that if we want to have multi-target interception capability, we need to use missiles with active radar guidance! Shikili needs target illumination radar and cannot have the ability to resist saturation strike! And the range is also too close!"
They want a four-sided phased array radar, which only intends to provide guidance at long distances. When the missile flies near the target, it can lock the target with its own seeker. In this way, there is no need for a special target illumination radar. This is also the ability they look forward to most.
Over the years, they have been resting on their laurels, and there has been no development in the ship-to-air missile system. Now that they have encountered demand, they have begun to make mistakes.
“As for missiles that actively guide radar, currently there are only R-77 missiles from the Air Force. Can this kind of missile be installed on our warships?” Someone started to come up with ideas.
"Yes, the U.S. Navy has Sea Sparrow, so of course we must also have Sea Viper!" Viper is the code name given by NATO to the R77 missile, but now the Maoist media has begun to widely use the nickname given by the West, and they also Slowly get used to it.
The R77 missile comes from the 1980s and was developed by Jinqi Design Bureau. It is a product that competes with the US-made AIM-120 missile. Unfortunately, by the time the research and development was completed, the Red Empire collapsed, and many parts were not produced in Damao. It fell to Ermao, which made the initial production of R-77 not easy. Now, this missile has been completely produced by the Moscow factory. So, they don’t have to worry about production issues.
“What’s the range of this missile?” Nikolai was also tempted. Since he became the leader, he rarely went deep into the front line to understand. Even if the Navy’s Su-30 is equipped with this kind of missile, he doesn’t know.
"The current version using rocket engines does not have a very long range. The maximum range is only 60 kilometers. When it is improved into a ship-to-air missile, the maximum range will shrink to less than 50 kilometers. However, in addition to the rocket engine, when it was originally developed, There is a ramjet version, and the range of this version is much longer."
From the appearance point of view, the biggest feature of the R-77 is the use of a grille tail. This tail makes the missile easy to operate. It has good control capabilities at various altitudes and speeds, and can even Compared with dedicated combat missiles with thrust vectoring capabilities, this tail fin also has shortcomings. For example, its resistance is somewhat large, resulting in a short range.
However, when it was originally designed, there were many versions of this missile, and the ramjet engine version could fly more than 100 kilometers.
Nikolai thought about it seriously: "If it sounds like this, it is still possible to use this kind of missile. Fazoron, which produces radars, is also in Moscow, and it is convenient for them to communicate with each other."
Missiles and radars need to be produced by Da Mao itself. This is a matter of principle and cannot be changed.
But, let’s talk about other things, such as the engine.
“Currently, we don’t have mature marine gas turbines here. Can we ask Mingzhou Group to install the gas turbines they produce for us? In this way, we can also save the cost of purchasing gas turbines.”
In the era of the Red Empire, gas turbines were all produced by Ermao. After the separation, Ermao also received a lot of good things. Unfortunately, if Ermao himself fails to live up to his expectations, he will lose his fortune.
In the era of the Red Empire, Lao Maozi did not put all the good things on Mao's land. Brezhnev said a particularly classic saying at that time: "The economy should be very economical." Therefore, Lao Maozi Economic costs also need to be considered, and the design and production of marine gas turbines are placed in Nikolayev.
In fact, at the beginning, design and production were separated. The specialized design bureau was called "Mashproekt" and the manufacturing factory was called "Zorya". After the separation, the two companies immediately merged, with the full name "Zorya-Mashproekt", which is the Dawn-Machine Design, Research and Production Consortium.
If it weren't for Qin Tao's fault, the Shuguang Consortium would still have good prospects. After all, the ship-type gas turbines Dongfang needs must be purchased from them. They can also get funds to improve their GT-15000 gas turbines and become the famous GT -25000.
However, Qin Tao took all the capable experts and technical information to the East, and the Dawn Alliance also declined. After all, the East did not purchase their gas turbines, and it was impossible for them to get orders from the West. Damao has not built a new warship in the past ten years, so it is not their turn at all.
Now Lao Maozi wants to build a frigate of more than 4,000 tons, and it also needs qualified gas turbines. They are also very troubled.
Of course, Damao itself also has gas turbine research and development. As early as 1992, Rybinsk began the design of Damao naval gas turbine engines. They mainly developed 7,000 horsepower based on the "Product 77" gas turbine from the Red Empire era. The M75RU marine gas turbine and the 14,000-horsepower M70FRU. But with no money and no demand, progress on these gas turbines has been slow.
Furthermore, the power output of these gas turbines is too low and cannot meet the needs of their four-thousand-ton frigates.
Since it is not convenient for them themselves, they might as well let Dongfang provide it!
Nicholas frowned. If he didn’t tell Qin about this, would he suffer a loss? However, since the big guy proposed it, he couldn't object, after all, he was sitting here.
"We have good power options for diesel engines. We can use two gas turbines and two diesel engines to form a diesel-fuel alternating power system. Orientals are also familiar with these powers. We send them the diesel engines and they can assemble them for us. Get up and we can finish it before going into the water." The guys started talking again. From this look, it seems that there is nothing wrong with letting the Orientals give birth.
Finally, the meeting ended. Nicholas took the final document produced by the meeting and came to report to the boss.
"Didn't we say we built it ourselves? Why did we ask the Easterners to help build it?" asked the boss.
"Mr. Qin was very angry and thought that we had taken away their business. He insisted that the salvage cost would be 500 million US dollars. We had no choice but to back down. But fortunately, they promised to design and produce a warship for us for free, so that we The goal can still be achieved," Nicholas said.
“Really?” The boss glanced at Nicholas meaningfully: “I thought you two had discussed it in advance.”
As soon as these words came out, Nicholas felt the sweat on his forehead. He originally thought that he was doing it very covertly, but he didn't expect that the boss actually knew about it! However, the boss definitely doesn’t know the details! I just knew that I had talked with Mr. Qin before this.
Nicholas shook his head: "Of course not. My identity and status now absolutely do not allow me to do things that are unworthy of the country. Moreover, I think our cooperation is beneficial. For example, in terms of ship gas turbines, we originally needed Purchase from Ermao. Over the years, Ermao has not produced a brand-new gas turbine. We suspect that they no longer have this capability. If we order from them, it will definitely cost a lot. Now, we directly let Mingzhou Group build it. It is provided to us at the right time without spending any money. Of course, not only these, our domestic shipbuilding industry is also facing big problems. The cost of building it ourselves is much more expensive than purchasing it from Mingzhou Group."
The boss shook his head: "Nicholas, you are only considering the problem from your own naval perspective. If you look at it from a higher level, even if we pay more, we should support the domestic shipbuilding industry. If our domestic shipbuilding industry If it collapses, do we need to keep purchasing from the East in the future? Even if we spend more money this time, we still have to produce it ourselves. Our defense industry must be independent, do you understand?"
Sweat broke out on Nikolai’s back. What does this mean, boss? Do you disagree? If he doesn't agree, what should we do? Mingzhou Group will definitely not salvage it for free, so we will directly cheat the customer. If the submarine cannot be salvaged, the money will not be refunded?
The problem is, it was Nikolai who signed the contract. When the time comes, customers will come to trouble Nikolai, and even if things get ugly, Nikolai will be pushed out as a scapegoat. The boss is a piece of shit. Nothing happened. Five hundred million US dollars were spent in vain. Even if the cost was overrun, the first frigate could be built.
This is a trap. Will you end up trapping yourself? Nicholas was speechless.
Fortunately, before Nicholas could think about what to do, the boss spoke again.
“However, since you have all decided this time, let’s do it, but we need to add a condition.”
“What conditions?”
“After Dongfang has built this first warship, it needs to hand over the design drawings to us.” the boss said.
Nikolai was stunned: "Design drawings? It would be great if we let the Orientals give us the design for free! The design fee for a warship is also very expensive. Now, do we still have to spend money to get the design drawings from the Orientals?"
"Don't you have a good relationship with Mr. Qin? I guess he should give it to you." The boss said, "If he doesn't give it to you, then we will send the salvage ship out to sea ourselves."
“Okay, I will convey your thoughts to Mr. Qin.”
When Qin Tao finished watching the ballet performance and came outside, the heavy snow in Moscow fell again. Qin Tao looked at Zaitsev who appeared in front of him: "Did Nikolay ask you to come?"
"Yes, the results have been obtained. Your Excellency, Nicholas, please go there."
“Okay, I guess it’s good news.”
It was already dark, and there were not many people walking on the street. Qin Tao came to Nikolai's office and saw a strange expression on Nikolai's face.
"Mr. Qin, I'm very sorry. If we want to cooperate, we need to add some additional conditions. I hope you can agree because we are old friends."
“What conditions?”
“You also need to provide the gas turbine above, and we will provide the diesel engine to complete the matching of the power system.”
“Is there any more?”
"We hope to get the design drawings of the warship." Nicholas said: "I know that this request is very difficult for you, and I don't want to embarrass my old friends, but there is no way. I hope you can understand to my difficulties."
Qin Tao nodded: "I know that if it weren't for our friendship, I wouldn't have gotten involved in this matter at all. If it was someone else's request, I would never agree, but since it's you, then I can only Nodded."
"Qin, we are indeed best friends!" Nicholas said: "The most correct thing I have ever done in my life is to meet you as a friend! We have known each other for more than ten years, Qin, do you know? When I first saw you, I thought we would become good friends!"
“Nicholas, do you know why we are good friends?”
"Why?"
"There are many reasons. For example, we are both honest people. For example, we can all help each other, but this is only analyzing and considering the problem from a personal perspective. If we look at it from a larger perspective, we Dongfang and Damao can only go as far as Only by working together can we cope with this unpredictable world."
"Yes, you are right." Nicholas said: "In the past few years, we blindly leaned towards the West and even tried to integrate into the Western world. Looking back now, we were really stupid at the time. Now , if we firmly follow our own path, we can achieve the great rejuvenation of the nation just like you!"
“That’s right, how about a drink together for our great revival?”
"Okay, let's sign the contract first, and then go celebrate. Your rescue ship must also set off quickly for rescue."
“This will have to wait until the funds arrive.”
“Didn’t I just say that we are still good friends?”
“Friends are friends, business is business.”
(End of this chapter)