Chapter 683: Do you want local chickens to be tendered? Not participating!
Mr. Lin asked Qin Tao if he could give them a stealth machine so that they could stand out, but Qin Tao had more to think about. After hearing his question, Mr. Lin also began to think deeply.
The J-10 fighter is a key project supported by the Air Force. It is a high-low match with the J-11. One is an imported imitation, and the other is independently developed. It walks on two legs and is very stable. If you want to say which aircraft the Air Force likes, it’s really hard to say. .
After the J-11 was mass-produced that year, many people in the Air Force unanimously supported the J-11. They even thought that the J-10 project could be abandoned and it would be better to free up funds to purchase a few more J-11s.
But Mr. Lin firmly supports the J-10. No matter how good the J-11 is, it is not his own, and its potential is limited. The entire set of technologies of the J-10 is his own, and he must step down. Otherwise, the domestic aviation industry will The self-research ability is completely gone.
Later, the J-10 did not disappoint the Air Force. In the air combat confrontation, the J-10 showed performance that was not inferior to that of the J-11, especially in terms of electronic systems, which surpassed those that could only use the original Laomaozi avionics. J-11.
Especially during an exercise, the J-11's radar was jammed and became completely blind, while the J-10 was able to continue to see the target clearly and perform combat missions. The difference between the two aircraft was also reflected.
Although Institute 601 is also working hard to complete the task of replacing the J-11 with domestically produced avionics, the J-10 has also been recognized by the Air Force. Everyone feels that this high-low combination is the most suitable solution.
As a result, stealth machines appeared.
At the beginning, this fourth-generation stealth aircraft, which Mingzhou Group raised its own funds and followed the path of international cooperation, did not attract the attention of many people. In their eyes, this thing was just a toy.
However, who would have thought that this aircraft was actually built, and it also showed great strength in the last naval exercise! The Navy immediately decided to purchase a batch of them as carrier-based aircraft.
The Navy has entered the era of fourth-generation aircraft, but what about the Air Force? Can the Air Force be worse than the Navy? Can you tolerate the absence of stealth machines?
Among the Air Force, the call for fourth-generation stealth aircraft is getting louder and louder.
However, they also have concerns.
This aircraft developed by Mingzhou Group is following the path of international cooperation and will be sold to many countries in the world. This means that there is no secret about this aircraft. Although the Air Force's J-10 does not have stealth capabilities , but it is self-developed anyway, and the technical data will not be leaked.
In addition, both 601 and 611 have launched fourth-generation stealth heavy fighter projects, and the Air Force feels that it can still wait.
But now, they can’t wait any longer.
Should we purchase large quantities of Mingzhou Group’s stealth aircraft?
"Well, we are a little embarrassed about this. After all, our Air Force has not provided any research and development funds. If we purchase from you now, you will definitely be embarrassed to ask for more money." Mr. Lin began to change the subject.
"Excuse me? What are you embarrassed about? You think the performance of the Flying Leopard fighter-bombers developed by the navy is good, so don't you want to purchase a batch of them?" Qin Tao directly refuted Mr. Lin's words. This kind of Both the Navy and the Air Force are doing a lot of work, so no one can blame the other. Mingzhou Group has plenty of money and R&D funds, so it doesn't care about these things.
As a patriotic military industry expert, how could Qin Tao make money from the army?
Mr. Lin was a little embarrassed: "Come, let's have another drink, and then continue talking."
"Mr. Lin, what exactly do you think?" Qin Tao asked, breaking the casserole.
"Mr. Qin, what do you think?" Mr. Lin began to ask, "If we equip a large number of stealth aircraft, will it be beneficial to us, or will it do more harm than good?"
"Our production capacity is limited, and your assumption is not valid. If you purchase our land-based stealth aircraft, we will deliver to you at most five to ten aircraft every year, which is only fifty to one hundred aircraft in ten years."
There are many users of this kind of advanced aircraft. Even if the Shuangyang Factory increases its production capacity to the extreme, it is impossible to produce hundreds of aircraft a year, and there will definitely not be many allocated to the Air Force.
At present, the international military aircraft production is generally the same. After the order is placed, the delivery will be like this three to five years. At that time, due to factors such as inflation, temporary price increases are also possible.
Now, after hearing Qin Tao's introduction, Mr. Lin started to think: "If this is the case, then we can purchase according to this scale. At the same time, it will not delay the purchase of J-10. We can have two medium-sized models. The machine is equipped at the same time.”
“That will lead to complicated logistical support.” Qin Tao reminded.
"It doesn't matter. Compared with the advantages of stealth aircraft, this difficulty can still be overcome." Mr. Lin said: "We can simultaneously equip two medium-sized aircraft, and these two aircraft complement each other."
The advantage of the J-10 is the high maneuverability brought by the duck layout. In the case of insufficient power, the J-10 relies on this aerodynamic layout to achieve strong maneuverability. The nose can instantly point to the target airspace, and its hovering ability far exceeds that of the Su-27 series aircraft. In combat combat Among them, Jian Shi is a good player.
At the same time, because there is no need to consider stealth, all the weapons of the J-10 fighter are external. It has eleven pylons. Even if they cannot be loaded all at the same time, it still has a mounting capacity of more than seven tons. On the four sides, two auxiliary fuel tanks can be mounted.
The same cannot be said for stealth aircraft, which have to look at the space in the bomb bay. The mounting capacity is greatly limited, the sustained combat capability is not as good as the J-10, and the maneuverability is not high.
Mingzhou Group has never made much publicity about the maneuverability of its fighter aircraft. It is just the average level of third-generation aircraft. After all, it is just a conventional aerodynamic layout. Although the thrust of the engine is large, the weight is also high, and the thrust-to-weight ratio is not high.
The two types of aircraft have their own merits. If the Air Force takes a fancy to them, they can certainly complement each other's advantages. However, this will complicate logistical support.
The J-10 and J-11 both use the same engine, which is easier to maintain and maintain. The stealth aircraft does not use the turbofan 15 with the highest thrust in the country. This engine was originally brought back by Qin Tao, but in China The military aircraft have not been used, and they have been using the third uncle to make up the numbers. Even the two domestic fourth-generation aircraft are planned to use improved models of the turbofan 15.
At this time, Mr. Lin has already made up his mind: allocate part of the funds to purchase fourth-generation stealth aircraft!
“Since the Air Force is so insistent, we welcome it,” Qin Tao said.
The Air Force procurement is equivalent to having one more customer, which is of course beneficial to them.
"Currently, our production line is producing carrier-based models. We have to wait until the next batch to produce land-based models. We will provide you with up to two aircraft before the end of the year." Qin Tao said, "So, these two aircraft are enough It is impossible for those who **** the Air Police-2000 to form an independent formation."
This is really not Qin Tao's interest in safeguarding the navy. The production of fighter aircraft is not easy. The construction of each aircraft often takes more than half a year. This has improved the assembly efficiency on the pulse production line, so they can only give them two at most.
The Air Force’s order will have to wait slowly.
Mr. Lin nodded: "Even if there are two, we have to fly at the front. By the way, the Navy has specifically designated the J-32, and our Air Force needs to change its name to a louder one."
This is of course also necessary.
Qin Tao nodded: "The Air Force's name is J-35, how about it?"
This is also in line with his later assumptions: the one that takes off and lands vertically is also called J-31A, which means it is improved from the previous J-31. The other two models are called J-32 and J-35 respectively. , compared to the Yankees' X-32 and X-35, it has no other practical benefits. It is good just to disgust people.
“Well, let’s call it the J-35. Our air force is expected to have a total equipment number of one hundred aircraft, which together with three to four hundred J-10 aircraft will form the backbone of our air force!”
The output of the J-10 is higher. The Air Force expects a total order quantity of three to four hundred aircraft. After all, this aircraft is much cheaper than the J-11. Together with the J-35, it will form a medium-sized aircraft camp.
Stealth aircraft are used to kick in doors. Once the opponent's door is kicked open, non-stealthy fighters can rush in. The Air Force does not intend to use the J-35 to compete for air supremacy. It is positioned to play a role similar to the F-117, with poor maneuverability. A little bit is acceptable.
"Then we've decided." Lin Lao said, "Tomorrow, our Air Force will hold a meeting to discuss the specific purchase of J-35s."
This matter has been settled, but the wine is only half drunk.
The two clinked their glasses again, and then Mr. Lin continued: "What ideas have you given the navy about this ceremony? What equipment does the navy want to display?"
"Mr. Lin, is it inappropriate for you to ask this question here? Besides, you will know when the superiors summarize it."
Teacher Lin is here to trick him into saying something, so we can’t talk nonsense.
Mr. Lin smiled and said: "It will be too late by then. Our air force cannot be compared with them."
Qin Tao shook his head: "I'm sorry, I can't agree to your request."
“Okay, let’s put it another way, what do you think about our air force’s equipment?”
Providing advice to the Navy during the day has already made Qin Tao very big-headed, and now, he is actually asked to give advice to the Air Force!
Qin Tao rubbed his forehead: "Okay, let me talk about a few, for example, air refueling echelon, have you considered it?"
Aerial refueling? Mr. Lin's eyes lit up.
The Navy has begun to develop carrier-based aircraft, and naval pilots have also begun to become proud, claiming that they are the best pilots. After all, every takeoff and landing of a carrier-based aircraft is dancing with the **** of death. In comparison, the Air Force The plane seemed to be stable.
If you show aerial refueling acrobatics during the ceremony, it will definitely attract attention!
Therefore, in the mid-to-late 1980s, the Navy looked at the equipment on hand and decided to use the J-82 as a refueling aircraft and the H-6 modified aerial tanker to develop aerial refueling technology. In 1991, it finally completed the first An aerial refueling experiment was carried out. By 1994, the aerial rendezvous refueling experiment was completed. By 1996, this project was ended.
However, at this time, the Navy suddenly discovered that this aerial refueling technology seemed to be no longer urgent.
After all, the Navy not only has J-7s capable of cruising the South China Sea, but also has several bases in the south, as well as specialized vertical take-off and landing fighter jets. In addition, the performance of the J-8s is so poor that the Navy has focused on on the construction of aircraft carrier force.
The Air Force, on the other hand, continues to spare no effort in developing aerial refueling technology.
After all, the Air Force is also transforming, from the original homeland air defense type to the offensive and defensive type. At this time, the Air Force needs to carry out long-distance flights. Although the Su-27 does not need to be refueled, the J-10 cannot.
At the same time, this is also because Qin Tao helped get a batch of Il-78 aerial tankers. Therefore, the Air Force has already practiced the cooperation between the J-10 and the Il-78. Now, it has developed this aerial refueling technology. , will definitely attract attention!
The first air formation is the KJ-2000 and J-35, and the second formation is the Il-78 and the J-10. The two formations are so impressive that even if the navy flies a formation of J-32, Nothing to show off!
Mr. Lin was happy now: "Come and drink. If this bottle is not enough, let's open another one!"
Qin Tao smiled: "Okay, let's drink."
After another glass of wine, Mr. Lin continued to ask: "Does the Navy have any plans to pull out the Red Flag Nine missiles?"
"I don't know about this, but the Air Force will definitely use Red Flag Nine as the main force in the ground exhibition. Therefore, if the Navy also pulls it out, it will definitely be rejected by the superiors, so you don't have to worry about this."
It is impossible for one square formation to be the Nine Red Flags of the Air Force and the other square formation to be the Nine Red Flags of the Navy! Thinking of these things is impossible, so Qin Tao can veto this project as long as he involves the decision-makers at his superiors.
"That's true. The Navy's most proud thing is the Aegis battleship, but it's a pity that they can't bring it to land." Mr. Lin mentioned this and laughed again.
Over the years, national policies have been changing, and the navy has been allocated more and more funds. Although everyone knows that it is necessary to do this, they still feel a little unhappy. It is also very good to watch the navy's jokes.
“By the way, if you have any other ideas, tell me a few more.” Mr. Lin raised the bottle again and poured wine for Qin Tao himself.
“What else can I do? I don’t know everything. I am a shipbuilder, but I don’t know anything about your air force.”
Qin Tao said it carelessly. Shipbuilders don’t understand the air force, and he seemed to be very reasonable. But looking at the current development of stealth fighters, and looking at Mingzhou’s Shuangyang Factory and Tianjiao Aviation, can he still say that it has nothing to do with aviation?
Mr. Lin smiled and suddenly thought of something: "Mr. Qin, have you heard about the recent events in the Chicken Kingdom?"
"What's the matter?" Qin Tao said that he didn't know. After all, he had been very busy during this period and had no time to take care of other things.
"The Navy of the Turkish Kingdom suddenly announced a public tender and planned to purchase a vertical take-off and landing fighter jet." Mr. Lin said: "Your Mingzhou Group is engaged in this kind of fighter jet, and you didn't actually bid? Are you afraid of missing out on a big deal? ?"
Tendering for vertical take-off and landing fighter aircraft? Qin Tao shook his head: "I won't go."
At present, there are not many vertical take-off and landing fighter jets in the world! The British Sea Harrier is completely outdated, and Lao Maozi's Yak-38 has been discontinued a long time ago. If the Turkish Navy wants to invite tenders, it is aimed at its own side. Only its own J-31A is the most advanced in the world. Vertical takeoff and landing fighter.
When the native chicken people want to invite tenders, they are just throwing out bait, hoping that they will take the initiative to come to the door and go to the native chicken people to sell?
Stop dreaming! Now that we don't have to worry about selling our stealth machines at all, and the orders have been scheduled for ten years, do we have to rush to find local chickens to sell them?
If you come to the door, the other party should make various demands, such as low price, production technology, etc. The native chicken people are the least sincere, and there is no need to sell to them.
“It seems you are really determined enough.” Mr. Lin said with a smile.
"Of course, the Air Force will have to learn from us in the future. If the natives want to purchase air defense systems, there is no need to run over with our Red Flag Nine to make up for it. When all the unfavorable conditions are met, the other party gets our missiles and changes hands. Just sold the technology." Qin Tao said: "We can't do business with people who break their promises."
Mr. Lin was a little surprised. Mr. Qin probably had conflicts with the Tuji people when they passed through the Tuji Strait last time, right? Over the years, we haven’t done much business with Tuji people. How does he know that Tuji people don’t keep their word?
This incident was just a small episode, and Mr. Lin didn't take it too seriously. The two continued to drink and chat for a while, and then parted ways.
Qin Tao returned home and briefly talked about the matter with Wu Shengli. Wu Shengli could only smile. Everyone was very competitive in this ceremony. If his son-in-law said this, he was not helping the Air Force. Even if he helped, he could not pursue anything against his son-in-law.
After another day in the capital, Qin Tao took Zhao Ling and embarked on the road to Moscow. If the YJ-18 missile was to be exhibited, he had to do it now and buy Lao Maozi's club missile. ,is very important.
I haven’t seen Nikolai for a long time, and I don’t know how he is doing in Moscow.
With such questions in mind, Qin Tao and his party arrived in Moscow. As soon as they got off the plane, he was surprised to see Nicholas standing outside the airport pick-up gate.
“Nikolai, my friend, I didn’t expect you to come to pick me up at the airport!” Qin Tao was extremely surprised: “Nikolai, it seems that you are still very relaxed after arriving in Moscow!”
Nicholas smiled: "Qin, I didn't come to pick you up specially. I was planning to go to the Kola Peninsula. I happened to hear that you were coming, so I took you with me."
Kola Peninsula?
Qin Tao understood instantly: "So you are going to inspect the Northern Fleet! Of course you can take me with you! I came at the right time."
So, Qin Tao and others boarded a Tu-154 passenger plane also parked at the airport and flew directly to the Kola Peninsula in the north.
For Qin Tao, flying around by plane has long been a common occurrence, and he didn’t feel uncomfortable at all. On the plane, he started chatting with Nicholas.
“Nicholas, how are you doing recently?”
“Well, it’s not bad, I just have a lot to worry about.”
"I see that your economy is gradually improving, and the navy will receive more and more funding. In the future, you will definitely regroup and restore the huge fleet of the imperial era." Qin Tao comforted.
“Yes, we are looking forward to that day. However, this time, we still have to solve the problem of the Gorshkov.”
Gorshkov?
Qin Tao certainly remembered this warship.
Three of the four Kiev-class ships are destined to him. Now, only the Gorshkov is left. After this aircraft carrier exploded its boiler, it has been docked at the Kola Peninsula. Qin Tao came to see it last time Yes, the condition is not good at all.
Lao Maozi must not be able to repair this aircraft carrier, so he has already made a decision to sell it. However, there are only a few buyers. As long as Ah San is not fooled, there will probably be no second taker in the world.
Lao Maozi couldn't even dismantle it because they didn't have a suitable dock. The most they could do was wash it on the beach. However, the aircraft carrier had a large displacement and it was not convenient to wash it on the beach.
Now, Lao Maozi is actually thinking about this aircraft carrier again. What on earth are they going to do with this aircraft carrier?
Qin Tao was very curious: "How do you plan to solve the problem of the Gorshkov?"
“You’ll know when you go there.” Nicholas said with a smile.
So Qin Tao stopped asking. He could resist the temptation. In this way, the group came to the Kola Peninsula and the port where the scrapped warships docked. When Qin Tao saw the aircraft carrier from a distance, Qin Tao I couldn't help but rub my eyes.
On the deck of the aircraft carrier, there is a carrier-based aircraft parked!
That scrapped aircraft carrier is actually going to be used again?
Moreover, that aircraft is not the Yak-38. Its body is even larger, and it still uses a twin vertical tail layout! When you see the rectangular air intakes on both sides, you can tell: Yak-141!
Isn’t this project abandoned? Qin Tao remembers clearly that he saw a prototype crashed on the runway, and the project was terminated. The Yak Design Bureau only has one training aircraft project left, which is lingering on. Now, they have actually built another prototype?
Where do they get their money?
Seeing Qin Tao's shocked expression, Nicholas was very happy: "Qin, I didn't tell you in advance, just to surprise you, our Gorshkov will be revitalized because of Yak-141! "
After being shocked, Qin Tao finally came to his senses and looked at Nicholas: "Are you selling to local chickens?"
Lao Maozi is definitely not using it for his own use. Look at the Kuznetsov, which has no money to go out for a cruise, and the Gorshkov, even less, does not have the funds, not to mention that this warship needs to be overhauled.
The natives want vertical take-off and landing fighter jets and plan to equip them on their aircraft carriers. Now, Lao Maozi is tempted. Why don’t they just provide the whole set? I did miss the Jacques-141, but I didn't expect that Lao Maozi could survive in such a desperate situation.
(End of this chapter)