Chapter 457 Converting the Glory-class cruiser into an arsenal ship
They were still a little green when they wanted to play this kind of game with Qin Tao. Just like this, they kicked the ball back and forth several times, and Asnaev and Moskalenko were speechless.
Asnayev smiled bitterly and said: "Mr. Qin, anti-aircraft missiles can be wrapped on us. This kind of anti-ship missile really has to be discussed by you. This kind of weapon is related to Mao's military secrets. We are not qualified. "
"If you don't have it, then I don't have it even more. In other words, the most powerful anti-ship missile on this cruiser is actually completely useless." Qin Tao said: "You two, I am right. wrong?"
Zheng Ming watched Qin Tao's performance from the side. Of course he knew that it would be difficult to get results from this visit. It was most likely just for a look. However, precisely because of this, he put down all the burdens. Interested.
Look at Mr. Qin teasing these two cents like this.
Asnayev and Moskalenko both nodded with a wry smile: "Mr. Qin, we are all good friends, so I won't hide this from you. These anti-ship missiles should be difficult to obtain."
"Then the combat effectiveness of this warship must be reduced by half." Qin Tao said: "The price must also be reduced by half. What you just said, two hundred million US dollars, I think it is only worth one hundred million US dollars."
"No, no." Asnayev quickly shook his head: "What we just said is that we can complete the construction with another 200 million. In this way, the remaining 10% will be worth 200 million, so the entire This warship is worth two billion, and we are all good friends. I will give you half the price, and you can drive this warship away with only one billion."
“Yes, you spent 200 million U.S. dollars on purchasing the Type 956. Now this cruiser will definitely make a loss of 1 billion.” Moskalenko said.
“The weather is really nice today.” Qin Tao said, “I miss the beaches in Crimea a little bit. Let’s go here and enjoy the sunshine and the beach.”
Qin Tao is actually leaving?
“President Qin, President Qin, our warships haven’t been settled yet.”
"Let's not talk about it. We can't afford it for one billion dollars." Qin Tao said: "You should keep it for yourself, just like the Varyag. The price quoted to Asan was really good."
Asnayev's face turned red.
The Varyag could be sold for hundreds of millions at first, but they had to sell it for free and demanded exorbitant prices. In the end, Ah San refused to buy it, so they had no choice but to sell it for scrap metal.
This lesson is profound enough. Now, why do you make this mistake again?
"Mr. Qin, we sincerely want to sell this warship, and we also ask you to offer a suitable price." Asnayev said: "Our cooperation was very pleasant last time, and we hope this time too We can continue to cooperate.”
"The right price? Didn't you just say it? One hundred million US dollars." Qin Tao said: "If you can accept it, we will drive it back now."
"Mr. Qin, the price of 100 million US dollars is really too little." Asnayev said: "This warship is different from the Varyag. It will be completed soon. You purchased the 956 and spent two years. The combat effectiveness of this warship is at least twice that of Type 956, and it is worth at least US$500 million! Moreover, you can’t leave immediately, it needs to continue to be outfitted until it is completed.”
Can’t drive away right away?
Qin Tao felt like a bright mirror in his heart. If he stayed, he would be in trouble. He might be like the Super Sun King, which was ripped off a few times. The last 10% of the outfitting continued to be asked for at high prices.
"To be honest, in our eyes, it is not as good as Type 956, and it is also deprived of anti-ship missiles. Therefore, we give 100 million US dollars, which is indeed the most appropriate price." Qin Tao said: "Everyone, I No joke, 100 million is 100 million, and after we go back, we will have to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on modifications."
“You modified it?” Asnaev and Moskalenko were both stunned: “How did you modify it?”
According to their thinking, they really planned to make another profit from the Chinese in the last 10% of the construction. They did not expect that once the other party purchased it, they would directly tow it away, and they also said they would modify it!
How can the Chinese modify it?
"Do you want to replace the anti-ship missile? It does need to be replaced. However, there are still a lot of electronic equipment on it that have not been completed. You do not have corresponding replacement products and cannot complete its modification. You should leave it to us." Mo. Skalenko said.
“Are you going to change it? Are you sure you can still order parts from the relevant factories? Take its rear mast as an example, can that huge MP-800 radar be purchased again?”
As a huge warship, it also has numerous radar equipment. In addition to the top-plate radar in the front, there is also a larger "flag (top pair three-coordinate air search radar at the back. One of its One side looks like a huge pumpkin petal, and the other side looks like an orange petal. The two are back to back, staggered at ninety degrees.
This kind of radar can only be equipped on cruisers. With its super power, the detection range is as high as 500 kilometers and its anti-interference ability is very strong. But it consumes electricity! Unless it is in wartime, the radar is generally not turned on. At the same time, even if it is turned on, the heat dissipation must be turned off after twelve hours.
The warship in front of you has not yet been equipped with such a huge radar. Qin Tao pointed out a key issue. If you want to modify it, do you have the ability? All relevant manufacturers have gone bankrupt!
Moskalenko stopped talking.
It's okay to deceive others, especially Ah San, who can easily be fooled, but it's not possible for the man in front of them. He knows everything about Da Mao Er Mao, has a clear mind, and has sufficient reasons. They can't refute him at all.
“We can find a way to resume production in the relevant factories. After all, even if you drive back, you will not be able to copy the radar system above.” Asnayev said.
He is still trying his best.
Qin Tao smiled: "Why should we copy the radar system above? We have our own alternatives."
“What are your alternatives?”
"Yes, if we purchase this warship, we will carry out extensive modifications." Qin Tao said: "For example, we will cut off the superstructure from the missing radar base and make it flush with the deck. , from the rear chimney to the front bridge, we can insert eight more eight-unit anti-aircraft missile launchers, bringing the number of anti-aircraft missiles to 128."
The Glorious-class hull is huge, and there is still a lot of space from the chimney to the helicopter hangar at the back. What is stuffed inside is eight eight-unit anti-aircraft missile launchers. It would be the same if they were stuffed in the front. If the number is high, then the number of its anti-aircraft missiles will be doubled!
What are so many missiles for? Resistant to saturation attacks?
"Wait a minute, you can't do this. There are so many missiles and there are not enough targets to illuminate the radar, so the ability to resist saturation attacks cannot be achieved!" Moskalenko said: "The top-plate radar alone is not enough. If you fight separately, you won’t be able to fully take care of all the flying targets!”
Qin Tao smiled: "Director Moskalenko, you are indeed very knowledgeable about warships and know the problems involved. For us, these are not big problems and we can use data links to solve them. "
“Data link? Do you place the search for this warship, and even the task of assigning targets, on other warships?”
"That's right." Qin Tao nodded seriously and came up with his own conclusion.
"If a fleet is equipped with seven or eight air defense ships equipped with four-sided phased array radar, it will undoubtedly be a waste. Moreover, we use active phased array radar, so the cost must be high. How can we reduce the cost? , and has multi-target strike capabilities?" Qin Tao came up with a new plan: "Then, we will build some special ships. The purpose of these ships is to store missiles. The more, the better. As for search capabilities, The responsibility can be completely handed over to brother warships, which not only simplifies costs but also improves coordinated strike capabilities. We call this kind of warship that specializes in launching missiles an arsenal ship."
Zheng Ming was also attracted by Qin Tao's words. After hearing this, it makes sense!
Now the Navy is indeed building a warship with a four-sided phased array radar. This kind of warship is too expensive, and the cost of the four-sided phased array radar is terrifyingly high.
How can we reduce fleet procurement costs?
The answer is here.
In a fleet, it is enough to have one warship equipped with a four-sided phased array. Anyway, this one can cover hundreds of kilometers of surrounding sea and air. If the radars of all warships are turned on, it is definitely a waste and may even cause Cause electromagnetic interference.
One warship is responsible for scanning, and other warships only need to receive the radar signal scanned by this warship, and then activate the target to illuminate the radar, aim at the target, and launch missiles!
In this way, the cost is reduced and the air defense combat capability is greatly improved!
Taking into account the blocking effect of the aircraft carriers in the fleet, it would be enough to equip two Aegis battleships!
Arsenal ship, this solution is really innovative! Zheng Ming was extremely emotional that Mr. Qin kept it secret. Every time he cooperated with Mr. Qin, he could always hear something new.
Zheng Mingzai sighed.
Asnayev and Moskalenko were even more shocked.
They originally wanted to complete the manufacture of this warship and rely on money from the East to support a group of companies that produce parts. But now they no longer need it. People still think there are too many electronic devices on it! What people need is a warship that can only be equipped with missiles, and at most target illumination radar. In this way, the number of missiles loaded on a warship will be terrifying!
One hundred and twenty-eight long-range anti-aircraft missiles and one hundred and sixty anti-aircraft missiles. The firepower of such a warship is equivalent to several Glorious-class ships!
Of course, this is just an appetizer.
"The second deck at the front of the bridge can be removed. We don't need the backward double-arm launcher and matching automatic loading system. The lower deck here is also hollowed out, and we can stuff in a cruise ship like the Tomahawk. Missiles, although we do not yet have such missiles in our country, they can be reserved. This part of the space should be able to fit about sixty-four missiles. Yes, at least sixty-four missiles. If it is not enough, put the ones in front The main gun has been dismantled!”
Sixty-four cruise missiles, what is the total number?
Three hundred and fifty-two pieces!
Isn’t this too powerful?
Asnaev and Moskalenko were shocked.
However, Qin Tao obviously hasn't finished speaking yet.
Qin Tao looked at the back of the warship again.
"Since we are going to refit, we need to do it more thoroughly. We don't need the helicopter hangar at the back. We still have to keep the take-off and landing deck, in case a helicopter docks in the future. There is an engine under the take-off and landing deck, and you can't penetrate the hangar to the bottom. This area should be able to accommodate thirty-two cruise missiles." Qin Tao was finally satisfied: "In this case, if nearly four hundred missiles are crammed into a 10,000-ton warship, it can It meets our vision of an arsenal ship."
“Mr. Qin, you don’t even want the anti-submarine system?” Moskalenko asked in surprise.
"What do you want it to do?" Qin Tao smiled and glanced at Moskalenko: "Since it is used as an arsenal ship, it has only one role, which is to serve as a missile carrier, carrying more missiles, and can handle anti-submarine matters. Let’s do it for other warships in the fleet. What are those one- to two-thousand-ton frigates used for?”
Qin Tao seemed to be talking about a very common thing.
Moskalenko was thinking about Qin Tao's words, but Asnayev was obviously thinking more: "In this case, you only need the shell of this warship?"
Congratulations, you got it! Qin Tao looked at Asnayev with a smile: "So, for us, buying this warship for 100 million US dollars is already very expensive. For us, the power system it carries is also very expensive. The S-300 air defense missile system is what we need, and the others have to be dismantled and rebuilt. If it weren't for these, we would have built them ourselves, and there would be no need to come here to purchase them."
China is still lacking in the power system of warships. After the completion of two 051Cs, brand-new destroyers have not yet appeared, which is evidence of this.
The power system of the warship in front of me has been installed. It is still a high-end full-combustion power. When cruising, it uses 2 M-70 cruising gas turbines. When it needs to accelerate, it uses 4 M8KF gas turbines, which can make this A cruiser can reach 32 knots, and its power performance is quite good. (There are also 2 boilers for exhaust gas circulation cruises. I don’t know what this means. Do you still use boilers for this cruise?)
"Mr. Qin, your request is too sudden and we are not prepared. Therefore, please wait a few more days. We need to report your idea to our superiors," Asnayev said.
Qin Tao nodded: "I'm waiting for your good news."
In Da Mao's eyes, the Admiral Lobov has advantages everywhere and is a powerful war machine. However, in Qin Tao's eyes, it is just a shell with an engine and S-300 missiles. , it’s only worth 100 million at most!
There are differences between the two parties, and the differences are very big. Therefore, we should not be too anxious about this matter. We need to report it to our superiors.
“Okay, we will visit here for a few days, a week at most. If you don’t reply, then we will leave.”
Qin Tao did not take a second look at the warship and left with Zheng Ming and others.
After returning to the hotel and checking the room, Zheng Ming couldn't help but speak: "Mr. Qin, your plan is really genius! I have just thought about it. An aircraft carrier formation in our navy only needs to be equipped with Two Aegis battleships equipped with phased array radars are enough. If coupled with five arsenal ships of this level, you can have two thousand missiles. It is a powerful weapon for both offense and defense, and the price is cheap!"
Qin Tao glanced at Zheng Ming: "Are you tempted?"
Zheng Ming became curious: "Mr. Qin, isn't what you said true?"
"What do you think?"
“Are you deceiving them?”
Zheng Ming has followed Qin Tao out more than once. He is very familiar with Qin Tao's style. Now it can be seen from Qin Tao's expression that Qin Tao is really fooling Lao Maozi!
It’s really embarrassing that I was also fooled!
Zheng Ming was a little ashamed, but he was still curious in his heart: "What you said just now, I think it's great! This idea can save costs and improve combat effectiveness, so why can't it be used?"
"On the battlefield, we cannot guarantee that every warship is intact. The warships in the fleet must have their own combat capabilities. To put it simply, what if the two Aegis warships we are responsible for target search and distribution are sunk? ?”
Such a fleet has a huge weakness: Aegis battleships. These battleships are equivalent to the eyes, ears, and even the brains of the fleet. Therefore, once entering a war, such warships will definitely be the first target that the enemy will target, and the enemy will try their best to Use various methods to kill this kind of warship.
As long as two Aegis battleships are sunk, or even just the phased array radar is damaged, then the entire fleet will be useless, and those majestic arsenal ships will set off fireworks aimlessly on the sea.
"Therefore, each of our warships needs to have complete combat capabilities. All our destroyers must be equipped with phased array radars. In normal times, only one or two warships in the fleet can operate radars, but once If necessary, each warship can fight independently, which is safer, do you understand?"
Zheng Ming nodded. He was almost fooled by Mr. Qin just now. Now that the explanation is clear and clear, it's strange. Why didn't he think of this? Maybe this is the gap between himself and Mr. Qin!
Zheng Ming was sighing and thought of something else: "Mr. Qin, are you all saying these things so that you can buy back the warship at a low price?"
Qin Tao smiled: "If we can buy it back with 100 million US dollars, it will be worth it. We changed the medium-range air defense missiles to Hongqi-16 and the anti-ship missiles to our own models. It is still a good all-round ship." Type warship, but this hope should be very slim, and the Americans will not watch us buy back the warship."
It is worth buying this shell for 100 million US dollars. After all, the six gas turbines behind it are worth 100 million, and the S-300 system equipped on them is also worth over 100 million. Even if you buy it back and spend money to modify it, it is still worth it.
In later generations, many fictional novels contained the concept of this cruiser. The anti-ship missiles on both sides were replaced with the domestically produced YJ-12. It still looks good in its original position. Moreover, because the diameter of the YJ-12 is smaller, the original double launcher can be turned into a triple-mounted launcher, or even a quadruple-shaped launcher, which can convert the anti-ship missile The firepower density is doubled.
If you get it back, you can really modify it like this.
However, a 10,000-ton cruiser is not easy to obtain, and many people must come out to stop it.
“Then we are here to derail the development of the world’s navy?” Zheng Ming asked.
In the field of the navy, there are many stories of being deceived. Take aircraft carriers as an example. Americans complain every day that super aircraft carriers are too expensive and inconvenient to operate. Light aircraft carriers are better.
The British stopped fooling around and created a useless invincible level. (Of course, it may also be because the British have no money in the first place, and this statement is an excuse.)
In the era when missiles were omnipotent, Lao Maozi was also led astray. He concentrated on developing the submarine force and planned to rely on missiles to defeat the enemy.
Now, it’s Qin Tao’s turn.
Qin Tao proposed the concept of arsenal ships. I wonder if it will distort the development routes of navies of various countries?
“I am not that capable, but as the first person to propose the concept of arsenal ship design, I will definitely be recorded in the history of naval equipment development, and I can still leave my name.”
Arsenal ship, this is a brand new ship type! As the proposer of this new ship type, Qin Tao should be remembered by the world.
“Mr. Qin, will your deception work?” Xu Zhengyang also asked curiously.
"Of course I can. After the Americans hear this, they will definitely regret being beaten to it by me." Qin Tao was very confident.
After all, the real proposer of the arsenal ship is the U.S. Navy. When considering the follow-up development of the Aegis warship, the U.S. Navy could not bear the rising prices and proposed the SC21 plan. As you can tell from the name, this is already after the new millennium. thing.
It's a pity that the Americans have always proposed plans, but never built them. Instead, they continued to launch Arleigh Burke-class destroyers one after another. Therefore, this plan, like Star Wars, is probably deceiving the world, but who If no one is fooled, Americans will no longer be able to play.
What now?
What do those guys think of the plan proposed by Qin Tao?
(End of this chapter)