Chapter 388 Domestic air defense ship radars must have domestic cores
14 canteens.
After reheating the meal several times, someone finally came to eat it. The people in the canteen cheered up and served meals to these sleepless people.
However, when a few new faces came in, they were still a little curious.
It was even more weird when these people came to ask for food with plates.
“Vinegar shredded potatoes, scrambled eggs with tomatoes, and another side of rice!”
When Qin Tao sat in a corner with a dinner plate, Mr. Ben, who sat down with a dinner plate to accompany him, couldn't help but be curious: "Mr. Qin, we have braised pork and sweet and sour pork ribs here, why don't you eat them? Just eat them These two vegetarian dishes?”
“I have lost weight recently.” Qin Tao said.
Wu Shengli also came over. He glanced meaningfully at his son-in-law, feeling somewhat moved in his heart.
There are not many meat and vegetables in it. Qin Tao and the others, who are outsiders, did not have any rice in the pot. If they eat those meat and vegetables, it means that these technicians will not be able to eat.
So, Qin Tao only ordered two vegetarian dishes.
Wu Shengli looked at the chicken drumstick on his dinner plate and suddenly felt that it didn't taste good either. He looked at Ben Lao's dinner plate opposite, and then took the drumstick over.
“Yeah, I’ve also lost weight recently, Lao Ben, you took care of the chicken legs.”
Ben Lao looked at the chicken drumsticks on the dinner plate and felt emotional in his heart. Then, he picked up the chopsticks and put the chicken drumsticks into the dinner plate on the side.
“Xiao Chen, you are pregnant and need to take more nutrition. Eat this chicken drumstick.”
The female engineer named Chen Lihua looked at the chicken legs that had been clamped several times and still hesitated.
"If you don't eat, you think our chopsticks are dirty. We haven't eaten yet. The chopsticks are new."
“Okay.” Chen Lihua directly picked up the chicken leg and started eating.
“What does Mr. Chen do? I didn’t seem to see you at the antenna installation site just now.” Qin Tao asked casually.
Although everyone was wearing white coats, white hats and masks, Qin Tao could still identify him through his eyes. The Chen Gong in front of him had black and shining eyes, as if he had never seen him before.
“I am in charge of the feeder system.” Chen Lihua said.
A radar is made up of many parts. Although the antenna is the most talked about, in fact, besides the antenna, there are many subsystems, all of which require effort to develop.
"Gong Chen is not an easy person. She has a master's degree from the Western Polytechnic University. She has been with our institute for five years with her lover. She has been busy with work and didn't get pregnant until this year. If she hadn't fainted at work once, we wouldn't have known about it." Said the old man.
Looking at the thin Chen Gong in front of him, and then thinking about his wife, Qin Tao felt very emotional.
The strength of the motherland cannot be separated from these scientific and technological workers! They are unknown and rarely have the opportunity to show their faces. However, they continue to contribute in ordinary positions. They are also the most lovable people in contemporary times!
“Leader Wu, I have an idea.”
"explain."
"Our 346 radar is about to be tested. As a warship R&D and production factory, we want to connect with the radar unit as soon as possible to determine the specific installation location of the radar antenna, conduct electromagnetic compatibility testing, etc." Qin Tao said: " Invite a group of experts from the 14th Institute to stay in our shipyard."
Qin Tao's meaning is also very simple. He wants to invite these people to the shipyard. After all, the food in the shipyard is much better than here, and the working environment is also good.
Furthermore, these do need to be docked in advance. The weight, size, etc. of the antenna have a great impact on the design of the warship.
Wu Shengli smiled and then looked at Mr. Ben.
Ben Lao smiled bitterly and shook his head: "At least not yet, we need to conduct land tests first. After the land tests are completed, we need to conduct sea tests. We are ready for a protracted war, which may take two to three years, or even longer. After these tests are completed, it will not be too late to contact you."
He knew Qin Tao's good intentions, but it was not the time yet.
Wu Shengli nodded: "In addition to problems with the radar system of our new generation destroyer, there are also problems with the power system. These subsystems are still under development. Therefore, Taozi, we can understand your urgency. However, let’s hold on for a while longer.”
Qin Tao could only give up.
“By the way, is there a special weapons test ship for sea testing?” Qin Tao became concerned again.
Wu Shengli nodded: "Yes, it is currently under construction."
You can't let Mingzhou Shipyard take all the benefits. There is only one weapons test ship, and the Navy will be directly handed over to a certain shipyard. Wu Shengli also raised this matter before.
“Well, in the design of this warship, the need for power supply was taken into consideration, right?”
Warships with four-sided phased array radars consume much more power than previous warships, which requires the warship's power supply capability to keep up.
"Of course."
“It is necessary to install stabilizer fins to simulate the scene of rolling in the waves. The left and right rocking can reach more than 30 degrees, and the safety of the hull must be ensured.”
“Warships must take into account explosion-proof requirements. Special explosion-proof glass must be used on the bridge. If the missile is not launched or falls and explodes, the warship must be able to withstand it.”
“The bow of the ship needs to be specially strengthened. When the electromagnetic gun comes out in the future, the recoil will be very large.”
Listening to Qin Tao's words, Wu Shengli felt a little regretful with his worried look. If he had known it earlier, he would have handed it over to Mingzhou Shipyard. He should have been able to complete the task better, right?
"Mr. Qin, your spirit is admirable." Mr. Ben said.
Qin Tao smiled: "I was a little too worried just now. Since we are not responsible, comrades in other departments will definitely consider these factors. Come, eat, eat quickly, the food is already cold."
Qin Tao didn't know why, but he had just raised so many questions. In fact, he didn't care about the design and construction of the ship, so why did he think about it so much?
It’s not like I’m the only one with this ability, there are a lot of excellent ship designers in the country.
“Mr. Qin, you are really a serious and responsible person. When we connect in the future, I hope to work together.” Chen Lihua said with a smile.
“Okay, from now on you will stay at our Mingzhou Shipyard and eat chicken legs as you like.”
“Mr. Qin, are you here to recruit people from us?” Mr. Ben was unhappy.
Qin Tao smiled: "Of course not. Think about it, the 346 radar is constantly being upgraded. We will always need someone to connect it. Wait until later... By the way, what model is the supporting computer used?"
Four-sided phased array radar has brought about a rapid increase in the amount of calculation data. Without outstanding computing power, it would be impossible to handle it.
Even the American Aegis system uses commercial computers. If this domestic Aegis system does not have powerful data processing capabilities, it will simply not be able to complete the system integration work.
"Currently, we use chips purchased from abroad and assemble them ourselves." Mr. Ben said: "Although we also want to use domestic chips, our current technical strength is too backward and cannot meet our needs at all. .”
Huge data processing requires powerful chips. Only imported chips can meet the demand, because in the 1980s, the relevant higher-level departments had given up on the research and development of very large-scale integrated circuits!
Qin Tao suddenly thought of something: "Mr. Ben, can't your 14th institute be able to produce chips?"
Essentially, the T/R component of the phased array radar is equivalent to a chip. They are engaged in radar, so naturally they also need chips for radar processing systems.
"Yes, we are also developing related chips, such as DSP chips for pulse Doppler radars. However, these have just begun. Moreover, if we want to meet the data processing needs of four-sided phased array radars, we must not only have professional The DSP chip must also be a general-purpose processor chip." Mr. Ben said.
(I checked a lot of information, but I couldn’t find a specific model. It is probably confidential. Generally speaking, the radar processing system of a fighter jet only requires professional chips, such as DSP chips. However, warship radar To process massive amounts of data, only powerful civilian chips can suffice. Even fighter planes, the AWG-9 radar that looks like a Tomcat fighter jet, also use 8086 processors. The American Aegis directly uses commercial minicomputers. Moved it up. What kind of processor does our Aegis system use? East China Heroes can only guess that according to the progress in the book, it uses a 486 or Pentium chip. The most advanced multi-core DSP chip publicly available in China , it is said that Guorui China Digital and Loongson chose the architecture based on the Loongson 3 general-purpose processor, and developed the Huarui 1 DSP chip by extracting and adding some special instructions and computing units based on practical applications.)
“Although we used their chips, we still designed the peripheral circuits and programmed the system, so there shouldn’t be any security issues.” Mr. Ben looked at Wu Shengli and explained.
It is impossible for hackers who are so arrogant among civilians to break into the system of a warship. After all, the other party must first enter the military data link system, and then they can enter the computer system of the warship. A dedicated system is not that easy to crack. of.
“You still have to have your own system!”
"What can be done about this? After all, the superiors have given up on the development of very large scale integrated circuits. This thing is too expensive." said Mr. Ben.
In the past, when Three Banks Heavy Industry came over, Qin Tao put forward conditions and required the introduction of a chip production line. This was the prerequisite for cooperation. However, the other party refused to do so, so the cooperation was temporarily stranded.
Qin Tao has been busy and has no time to think about it. Now it seems that he must take action.
Domestic warships must have domestic cores! Whether it's a DSP chip or a general-purpose processor chip!
"Mr. Qin, if you want to build a modern chip production line, you will need at least several hundred million. If you want to develop a 486-level processor, the research and development expenses will also be several hundred million. Together, it is expected to cost one billion!" Mr. Ben Looking at Qin Tao: "This is not easy for your Mingzhou Group!"
"Mr. Ben, you underestimate our Mingzhou Group too much." Qin Tao said: "Needless to say, we can afford one billion yuan or one billion U.S. dollars. However, we are starting from scratch, and talent and technology are the most important factors." question."
At Qin Tao, money is not an issue!
Needless to say, warship projects, just civilian ships, and external cooperation, Mingzhou Group is constantly making money. Although investing this kind of funds will bring a burden to Mingzhou Group, it will definitely not hinder the development of Mingzhou Group. .
Once you have money, you have to do practical things!
"Mr. Qin, if you are really determined to pursue this kind of project, you must find our authority in the chip industry." Mr. Ben said.
Authority? Qin Tao asked: "Mr. Ni?"
"Mr. Qin is really well-informed!" Mr. Ben said: "Mr. Ni has been rushing to build our own chips for half his life. Just this year, he has facilitated the establishment of a joint venture with Huating University and Yangtze River Computer Company. The intention of the chip design center is to establish Lianhai Microelectronics Design Center and prepare to vigorously develop integrated circuit chip design capabilities."
After all, Institute 14 is in electronic systems and pays more attention to this aspect, so it knows these things. However, Qin Tao, a shipbuilder who often travels outside, actually knows Mr. Ni, which surprises Mr. Ben.
However, what Qin Tao said next surprised Mr. Ben even more.
“This design center is impossible to build.”
"Why?"
"Because L Xiang Company doesn't want to engage in technology at all, they think it only needs to engage in the market. In terms of technology, if they invest huge amounts of money, they may not be able to compete with the combination of Microsoft and Intel, so why bother with that effort," Qin Tao said.
Mr. Ben was so surprised that he opened his mouth wide: "Mr. Qin, do you even know the inside story of these companies?"
Of course Qin Tao knew that this was the famous divergence between the technical routes of trade, industry and technology and technology, industry and trade. In the end, Mr. Ni failed and was squeezed out of L-Imagination. However, he did not give up. He has been working hard to create a new world all his life. and strive to produce domestic chips.
Qin Tao admires Mr. Ni.
Originally, there was no overlap between shipbuilding and chip manufacturing. However, as Mingzhou Group develops and expands, it will inevitably extend to other industries. Just like Hyundai Group and Sanxing Group, they will eventually develop into a large multinational group with diversified business projects.
If you want to make money, chips are definitely huge profits. Among domestic imported products, the first is oil, and the second is chips.
This opportunity should be the most suitable now. Around 1994, Mr. Ni was traveling around the country, recruiting talents, and found a complete technical team that could design CPUs. He planned to establish the "Lianhai Microelectronics Design Center". He devoted great enthusiasm to this project called "China Core".
However, he was poured cold water on him by the company.
Li Qin, the company's executive vice president, shook his head and rejected the project. Mr. Ni went to find his old partner again, but his old partner, who had always obeyed his words, actually shook his head too. The once intimate "Gemini" is on the verge of breaking up.
Mr. Ni is talented, but he has no money! Mingzhou Group has no technology and knows nothing, but they have money!
Qin Tao made up his mind and just did it.
Yes, Qin Tao belongs to the practical school, so after coming out of the 14th Institute, he immediately asked someone to investigate the whereabouts of Mr. Ni, and the result was very happy: Mr. Ni has been at Huating University in the past few days.
The next day, a Mercedes-Benz G drove into Huating University and parked in front of the computer department building.
In the lecture theater, a report is being made. A voice was ups and downs and impassioned, and Qin Tao was also attracted, so he opened the door from behind and walked gently over.
On the podium, there is a thin man with white hair on his forehead and wearing glasses, where the light of hope is radiating.
"Now, the world has begun to enter the era of personal computers. X86 architecture processors represented by Intel and Microsoft Windows 95 desktop operating system have built a huge ecosystem of global home computers. At present, although we have a large number of computer brands in China, The upstream chip, processor and software industries are firmly in the hands of American technology giants. We call this alliance between Windows and Intel the Wintel Alliance."
As he spoke, he wrote this word on the blackboard: "They have formed a monopoly advantage all over the world. Under this situation, it will become more and more difficult for us to build domestic independent processors and software systems, but we must We must develop our own IT core technology, which is related to our information security and the development of our country's electronics industry."
"If these goals cannot be achieved, then our information industry will lack core and soul. The core refers to the chip, and the soul refers to the operating system. In this way, we can only survive in the jungle established by others. Others occupy the industry You can easily earn high profits in the upper reaches of the chain, but we can only earn meager profits at the lowest end of the industrial chain through unskilled work such as assembling computers.”
Qin Tao felt a little emotional in his heart. This situation has not changed even in 2020! In the field of electronics, there is a magical Moore's Law. If you fall behind one step, you will fall behind step by step. It is not that easy to catch up.
After the two-hour report was finished, the entire lecture hall burst into applause. At this time, boundless enthusiasm arose in the hearts of these students.
But how long will this enthusiasm last? Later, they will be hit by reality and lose their fighting spirit.
Qin Tao stood up, walked out from the back door, followed Mr. Ni in long strides, and headed towards the department director's office on the second floor.
"Lao Ni, this report was very well done. I saw pairs of eyes full of expectation. They are all the future of the motherland. Their fighting spirit is ignited in their hearts. They will definitely contribute their share to the motherland's chips in the future. Power." Department Director Luo Minghai said with a smile.
“Yes, they are the future of the motherland, but we cannot wait for the future, we have to wait for now. How are your universities considering it?”
Hearing Mr. Ni's question, the smile on Luo Minghai's face disappeared.
"The Institute of Computer Science doesn't dare to independently engage in the research and development of general-purpose processors. We are a university. How can we have this ability? Lao Ni, you are making things difficult for me! Unless there is a strong company to support it, otherwise, designing the chip by oneself is It’s just a fool’s errand, let’s forget about our Lianhai Microelectronics Design Center!”
"No, absolutely not, how can we forget it? Lao Luo, ten thousand years is too long, just seize the day! There has been a gap between us and the West for more than ten years, and if we don't catch up, the gap will be even bigger! "
"Everyone knows this, but what about the money? If you want to design a chip, you have to invest at least hundreds of millions! Where can you get such a lot of money? Our university does not have that much scientific research funding. At first, I saw that your company is strong. Now…"
Mr. Ni clenched his fists: "It seems that I have no choice but to go back and continue to argue with them. Without technology, there is no future for me just to be an opportunity dealer!"
“Forget it, Mr. Ni, it will be in vain for you to go back.” At this moment, a voice came from the other side of the door.
Mr. Ni looked over in surprise and saw a young man standing at the door with a secretary. This man looked familiar.
“Mr. Qin, you are finally here. We have been waiting for you since we received the news from our superiors. We didn’t expect you to come just now.”
“I have been here a long time ago and listened to Mr. Ni’s report in the lecture theater.” Qin Tao said: “I am also very emotional in my heart. Our chip industry is quite backward.”
Mr. Qin? Mr. Ni suddenly thought of something: "Are you Mr. Qin of Mingzhou Group?"
Mingzhou Group has now developed into a first-class enterprise in the country. Even if they think that although they are the leader in the industry, they cannot compare with Mingzhou Group! After all, they are shipbuilders, and a ship costs tens or even hundreds of millions!
"That's right, it's me." Qin Tao said: "Mr. Ni, L Xiang Group only plans to do business and has no plans to engage in technology at all. Therefore, there is a new road in front of you. I wonder if you are willing to take it. .”
“What way?”
“Leave Lxiang Group, which only intends to do business, and join our Mingzhou Group. We will set up a dedicated chip branch in Pudong New District, Huating. The goal of this company is to design our own processors.”
“Really? Your Mingzhou Group wants to invest in chips? Are you also optimistic about the civilian general-purpose processor?” Mr. Ni became excited.
Qin Tao slowly shook his head.
"I'm sorry, Mr. Ni. In today's report, you also said that there is a huge gap between us and the West. This gap is difficult to catch up with. For now, even if we have spent a lot of effort to develop civilian General-purpose processors will also face a situation without an ecosystem, and it will be difficult to compete with the Wintel Alliance."
It cannot be used with a CPU and an operating system, because it requires ecological support. If various software cannot run, then this kind of computer is just a brick.
“Then what are you going to do when you invest in chips?”
"Military use." Qin Tao explained: "Currently, our country's shortage of chips has affected military equipment. We need advanced processor chips for military purposes, such as monitoring a large number of incoming missiles at the same time. It requires high-speed processing capabilities. In this regard, we don’t have similar chips in China and we need to use imported products.”
“However, the demand for this kind of chips is too small.”
“That’s better than no sales.” Qin Tao said: “For now, if we want to develop chips ourselves, the ecological problems we face are almost unsolvable.”
After leaving L Xiang, Mr. Ni once founded Ark Technology. In the new millennium, Ark 1 was born. The combination of Ark CPU, Yongzhong Office, NC thin client and Linux operating system has created a purely domestic computer system.
The results of it?
It was simply incompatible with Wintel's system. As a result, the system could not work properly even if it was purchased by the government. In the end, the project failed, which also taught many people a **** lesson.
The market and users are the real touchstones of a product. Ark hoped to bypass Wintel's patent barriers through its own architecture of CPUs and open source Linux systems, but was unable to create a suitable ecosystem. Even if there is strong policy and financial support as a backing, it will be difficult to succeed.
(End of this chapter)