Chapter 193 How can a second-hand sea harrier compare to Jacques 141
The British were so easy-going that they copied the invincible-level plan exactly! No wonder the British share of weapons in the international arms market is getting smaller and smaller.
However, this cannot be blamed on the British. If they want to redesign, it will also cost a lot of money. With the labor cost of the British, it may cost millions to redesign. If they can get orders, it will be fine. If not, those millions will be wasted.
So, they did not dare to take this risk and could only use the invincible level to fool them.
Anyway, they also have capital.
"Our Invincible-class aircraft carrier once displayed its might in the Atlantic Ocean and won the war in the 1980s. A few months ago, our Invincible-class aircraft carrier continued to fight and worked with its allies to maintain world peace. In war after war, our Invincible-class aircraft carriers have demonstrated their powerful performance. Among light aircraft carriers, the ones with the most practical combat experience are our Invincible-class aircraft carriers.”
Evans was very proud when he said these words. Yes, as a British man, he was proud of that war. Now, when he talks about the Invincible-class aircraft carrier, he is also very proud.
It’s just that, to everyone present, this is all nonsense.
“Mr. Evans, please explain this warship.” Narris said.
"OK."
The structural diagram of the aircraft carrier appeared on the projection screen, and Evans started to explain.
There is a jump deck on the left side of the aircraft carrier, and a straight right side. The bow still looks like an ordinary warship, and there is a sea dart system hanging on it. Behind the straight deck on the right side is a huge bridge. The entire aircraft carrier embodies The design standards of the 1960s have long been outdated from the current perspective, especially the huge bridge, which occupies too much deck area, resulting in not much operable area on the deck. Of course, this is also There is no other way, such as the two huge chimneys, which take up a lot of space.
"An aircraft carrier like ours is the most suitable choice for you. The entire aircraft carrier, including the carrier-based aircraft, is quoted at 2 billion, which is very cost-effective." Evans said.
Qin Tao smiled secretly in his heart. This kind of offer immediately scared off Siam. Two billion, do you know how much Siam’s military expenditure is per year?
Especially in the 1990s, Siam adopted a series of measures to relax financial controls and attracted a large amount of investment. It has brought about the rapid development of the entire country's economy. For example, in 1992, Siam's gross national product reached 101.8 billion U.S. dollars, and its military expenditure that year was 2.9 billion U.S. dollars.
So, if Siam bites the bullet and buys an aircraft carrier worth 3 to 4 billion, can it still consider 2 billion? Stop dreaming! Siam simply does not have that strength.
Vickers Shipyard, represented by Evans, is destined to be excluded first.
No matter what design or military exploits it has, they are all secondary. The price factor must be eliminated first.
There is actually no problem with the British thinking. Compared with the Americans' super aircraft carriers, which cost tens of billions to build, their two billion aircraft carriers are definitely cheap!
Therefore, after Evans spent an hour and finished his report, none of the Siamese people above showed any expression. Nares just said coldly: "Next, the representative from the Bazin Shipyard in Brazil, you want to continue Do you want to speak?"
Rodriguez looked around, and then spoke humbly: "Let's invite the representative from the East. We will speak last."
The last thing is the finale, which is a common method used all over the world. At this time, Rodriguez did not speak first, but just wanted to see what the design of the Oriental Visitor was like. When they finally spoke, in addition to the introduction In addition to your own, you can also belittle the other two options.
Qin Tao stood up: "Everyone, let me introduce you next."
"Our design plan is an aircraft carrier with a standard displacement of 7,000 tons and a full load displacement of 11,500 tons. Its length is 182.6 meters and its width is 22.5 meters." Qin Tao started as he walked towards the demonstration area. introduce.
(Speaking of the displacement of warships, there are different ways to measure it. Specifically, there are no-load displacement, standard displacement, normal displacement, full-load displacement, and maximum displacement. No-load means nothing is used, and standard displacement is no-load displacement. Add the weight of full personnel, ammunition, supplies, fresh water and machinery, but do not include fuel, lubricating oil and spare boiler water. If these latter items are loaded half way, it is the normal displacement. Add all of them, it is the full displacement and the maximum displacement , that is, continue to stuff various fuels, fresh water, etc. into the excess space until it can no longer be stuffed.)
Rodriguez is a little strange. How come the dimensions and tonnage data are similar to our own?
"For the power system, we decided to use two configurations, one of which uses alternating diesel power; two LM-2500 gas turbines with a power of 44,250 horsepower, and two MTU16V1163TB83 diesel engines with a power of 11,780 horsepower. Only diesel engines are used, and the maximum speed is 16 knots. If you use a gas turbine, the power can reach 26 knots." Qin Tao continued: "The other way, we use steam power and four boilers, which can make the aircraft carrier reach 30 knots."
This gas turbine is from the United States and can be installed on Siamese warships without any problems. Especially the two frigates negotiated in the early stage use the same power system.
Evans wanted to say something, but in the end he did not speak.
Doubt the opponent’s speed is not enough? There are two options!
If you want to be advanced, use gas turbines; if you want speed, use boilers.
When he said this, Qin Tao had already walked to the slide projector and put his own slide on it. When the graphic was typed, Rodriguez stood up immediately.
"You, you, you guys..." Rodriguez repeated several words, but he still couldn't continue.
What’s more, this structural diagram is almost the same as the structural diagram they are planning to bid for, with only minor changes.
What exactly is going on?
Rodriguez also plans to compare the previous two models when he finally plays and talk about the advanced nature of his own design. What can he say now? To find fault with others is to find fault with oneself.
His mind was filled with shock. What on earth was going on?
Rodriguez was caught off guard. Could it be that the drawings were leaked? It's impossible. Their design drawings were made by a few people in the team, and these people had no chance of contacting Orientals.
He completely trusted his men. If the drawings were not leaked, what was it? Different paths leading to the same destination? Does the other party's thinking happen to be the same as yours?
This is impossible!
Our own drawings were modified from the drawings of the Prince of Asturias aircraft carrier. Did they also refer to the design of this aircraft carrier? Although the detailed drawings of this aircraft carrier have not been leaked, after all, there are still basic structural drawings in some military magazines. Is this how the other party designed it?
When he thought of this, Rodriguez had nothing to say. He originally wanted to scold the Easterners for stealing, but now, he couldn't say it out.
Qin Tao stopped talking and looked at Rodriguez: "Sir, what do you want to say? How about you introduce it first, and we last?"
Rodriguez sat down with a gloomy look.
“Thank you, we are very touched by your humility, so we will not waste time and continue the introduction.”
Rodriguez's face turned red and white for a while. Everyone could tell that this man must be emotional, but no one knew why.
Qin Tao continued to introduce: "In terms of weapon systems, we also have a lot of conveniences. For example, we can reserve space to install an eight-unit Sea Sparrow ship-to-air missile and three Sadlar six-unit anti-aircraft missiles. The system can launch Mistral air defense missiles, and can also be equipped with Sea Sidewinder air defense missiles that we are imitating to provide point defense capabilities. It can also be equipped with Phalanx systems and 30mm cannons."
Rodriguez almost stood up again. These self-defense systems are almost exactly the same as their designs. In this case, do they still need to introduce them later? They were all introduced by Easterners.
How could it be such a coincidence?
Had he known earlier, he would never have let an Easterner introduce him first.
"We will design and construct key areas such as the flight deck, power plant, power distribution system, and damage control system in accordance with military standards. Others, such as the hull structure, pipelines, cables, and electrical equipment, will all be designed and constructed in accordance with British labor standards. The design is based on the civil ship construction specifications of the China Classification Society, which is also to further reduce the price of the entire warship." Qin Tao said: "In this way, for an aircraft carrier without carrier-based aircraft, we quote 350 million. If the power system and weapon systems, if all are purchased by you, then our quotation can be reduced to 300 million."
Three hundred million, for the price of two F-26T frigates, you can buy the shell of an aircraft carrier and take it back. It’s definitely a great deal!
Rodriguez couldn't bear it any longer and asked, "Excuse me, what kind of carrier-based aircraft do you plan to use?"
He had to fight back. The price was too low, and they couldn't even make the offer themselves. Now, he wanted to save it, so he thought of this problem in a hurry.
“In terms of carrier-based aircraft, there are many options. For example, it can be equipped with all helicopters, all vertical take-off and landing fighters, or a mixture of them.”
“What type of vertical take-off and landing fighter aircraft do you plan to carry?”
Facing Rodriguez's constant questions, Qin Tao felt slightly embarrassed: "Sir, it seems that we haven't reached the question and answer session yet? Are you so impatient?"
When Evans was explaining just now, there wasn't a single question. He explained for an hour alone. But when he came to Qin Tao, Rodriguez couldn't control himself and kept asking questions. Once or twice was okay. After constantly asking questions, Qin Tao also began to fight back.
“This is very important, I hope you will answer it seriously.”
"Okay, that's what's going to happen anyway. However, if this kind of question keeps interrupting my introduction and I don't finish it within an hour, please extend the time." Qin Tao looked at the rostrum .
“Okay.” Naris nodded. The big shot was really straightforward, playing the role of an audience, always listening and not saying much.
"Then let me introduce the carrier-based aircraft first." Qin Tao said: "Currently, there are two main vertical take-off and landing fighters in the world, one is the Sea Harrier and the other is the Yak. So, we will use this Two aircraft are used as carrying objects.”
Jacques?
Rodriguez had a smile on his face. Did you do enough homework before selling? Siam Congress purchases Yak fighter jets as carrier-based aircraft? Their potential enemies are equipped with Soviet-style weapons!
“Since the Sea Harrier fighter jet has been introduced by Mr. Evans just now, now I will mainly introduce the Yak fighter jet.”
Whether the Siamese people are satisfied or not, they must at least brag about it first.
So, Qin Tao put up a new slide.
“Why is this a Yak?” When he saw this aircraft, Rodriguez was stunned: “Why does this aircraft look the same as a MiG-25?”
MiG-25, once an invincible existence, an existence that once made the West tremble with fear, shocked the entire West when it reached a speed close to Mach 3 at an altitude of 30,000 meters.
However, after Belenko's defection, the West finally came into close contact with this aircraft for the first time, and the sacred halo slowly fell.
It's not made of titanium alloy, it's made of stainless steel, and it doesn't have a variable cycle engine. It relies on the turbojet engine to turn on the afterburner and it will burn out after a long time. As for the radar that can burn rabbits to death, it is just It's just high power, and it can't burn a rabbit to death at all, because it's fundamentally different from the principle of a microwave oven.
However, this kind of aircraft is still very powerful, and many of its design concepts have even been used by designers from other countries. For example, the layout of twin engines and twin vertical tails was pioneered by the MiG-25 and has been used in many other countries. On the fighter plane.
In the early 1990s, when it came to the MiG-25, people were still amazed.
"This is the latest Yak-141, a vertical take-off and landing fighter." Qin Tao said: "This fighter is an upgrade based on the Yak-38. Its biggest feature is that it can fly at supersonic speeds and has a maximum speed of Mach 1.4, the maximum range is more than 2,000 kilometers, the maximum ceiling is more than 15,000, and the maximum external weight is 2.6 tons.”
When he stated these parameters, everyone present was shocked, especially the Siamese.
These military people certainly know what these parameters mean.
The Sea Harrier fighter jet can theoretically fly to Mach 1.1, but that is only theoretical. In actual flight, it has not flown at supersonic speeds. At the same time, both the Sea Harrier and the Yak-38 are short-legged and cannot fly at Mach 1.1. It would be good to wander around the aircraft carrier within a distance of one or two hundred kilometers.
As for the mounting capacity, even on the Falklands battlefield, the Sea Harrier can only hang two rattlesnakes and fly up to fight the Weeping Country.
Now, these data are scary enough. What does 2.6 tons of plug-ins mean? That kind of heavy anti-ship missile can be mounted on it!
If there were such fighter jets, their aircraft carriers would no longer be useless! The displacement of more than 10,000 tons is due to cost considerations, but an aircraft carrier of this level can only operate helicopters and vertical take-off and landing fighter jets. You can't even think about ordinary carrier-based fighter jets.
"Huh, what's the use of having more advanced performance? Can it be purchased?" Rodriguez started to criticize again. He had no other way. With this aircraft carrier, coupled with this kind of carrier-based aircraft, Rodriguez Is there any chance to introduce their aircraft carrier solution?
After the initial anger and surprise, Rodriguez has now begun to wake up. He must point out the shortcomings of this weapon to make the Siamese people give up their thoughts.
Can I purchase it? Siam is a traditional Western weapons purchasing country!
Hearing what he said, Qin Tao smiled: "Everyone should know that we have purchased Su-27 fighter jets from Lao Maozi."
This is not a secret. Lao Maozi's Red Star has long published an article on arms exports, and everyone in the world knows it.
"Before us, this kind of Su-27 fighter has never been exported, and we are the first user." Qin Tao said: "Since we can even purchase advanced equipment from the Lao Maozi Homeland Defense Air Force, then we will purchase a It shouldn’t be a problem to criticize Yak-141, right?”
“You want to purchase this kind of aircraft?”
Someone on the podium exclaimed.
Qin Tao nodded: "Yes, we are very optimistic about this aircraft. As everyone knows, our country has a long coastline and sacred maritime rights and interests to protect. However, our current fighters cannot fly such a distance. distance. Therefore, we plan to purchase a batch of such fighters."
“You don’t have an aircraft carrier, so what do you need this kind of fighter plane for?”
“Well, this is still a military secret, so I can’t comment.”
Several people on the stage were whispering to each other.
"*Next, we recently received news from China that they also have the idea of building a warship of the same type as our aircraft carrier. If they want to build it, they will definitely purchase this kind of fighter aircraft." This is Rakul's voice .
"Yes, although the transfer to a third country is a little more troublesome, if we have this kind of fighter jet, our navy will gain first-class combat effectiveness. Even if it confronts the land-based fighter jets of some countries, it will not fall behind." This is the voice of Naris on the other side.
Qin Tao secretly smiled in his heart. If he said this now, there would be no problem. In the future, the other party would ask why he did not build a light aircraft carrier or buy a vertical take-off and landing fighter. The reason is very simple.
We also want to buy it, but the Red Empire is gone! Yakov Design Bureau is closed, how can we buy it?
At that time, Qin Tao can cry with tears in his eyes. Who could have expected such a thing? The Su-27 we purchased will almost never come back.
At this time, Qin Tao looked at the people present and said: "We are now discussing the bidding of the aircraft carrier, not the carrier-based aircraft on it. The aircraft carrier and the carrier-based aircraft are completely different things. Mr. Rodriguez, you build ships Factory, does it produce carrier-based aircraft?"
Rodriguez really couldn’t say anything.
"The Sea Harrier fighter jets are produced in the United Kingdom. Even if our valued customers want to purchase carrier-based aircraft, they must purchase them directly from the United Kingdom. Even if Spain once assembled a batch, it has been completed long ago. What, you plan to Are you going to sell your second-hand Sea Harrier to the noble Kingdom of Siam?" Qin Tao finally started to fight back: "The original lifespan of Sea Harrier fighter jets is not very long. It is not cost-effective to purchase second-hand ones. After the aircraft carrier is built, even if I have to use a helicopter to make up the money first, and I definitely can’t buy a second-hand Sea Harrier!”
Rodriguez’s face was extremely gloomy.
This was originally their plan, but now they didn’t expect it to be revealed by the other party!
They have done analysis and evaluation and found that the Siamese Navy can spend up to 400 million. Therefore, they plan to quote a price of 360 million for the aircraft carrier they built, and then sell their second-hand Sea Harrier for 100 million. Give a few of them to the Siamese Navy, so you can collect 400 million. Just in time, you will have an aircraft carrier and carrier-based aircraft.
So, they are sure that they will win this contract.
However, who would have thought that Qin Tao would actually mess up their plan.
On the one hand, Qin Tao brought out a tall supersonic vertical take-off and landing fighter to fool the Siamese people. Judging from the murmurs of those people, you knew that they were tempted. On the other hand, he was saying that the second-hand Sea Harrier was not good enough. Okay, so how can they launch their packaged sales plan?
After Qin Tao finished saying this, he looked at Evans, who had been silent.
“Mr. Evans, are your second-hand British Sea Harriers exported?”
Evans shook his head: "No, those aircraft are too old. Our production line is still running. If Siam needs it, it can order brand-new Sea Harrier fighter jets."
The Sea Harrier fighter jet is definitely an evergreen tree in the history of military aircraft production. It began production in the 1960s and 1970s after successful research and development, and has been in production until the 21st century. From 1962 to 2003, it was produced for a full forty years. The production time is longer than that of Liu Ye and Qi Ye in China.
Even if the bid cannot be successful, there is at least hope of bringing back a batch of orders for Sea Harrier fighter jets, and Evans will be satisfied.
Yesterday, when Zheng Ming and Yang Dawei went to the British side, they brought this message to them. There is no benefit in everyone becoming hostile. It can only give the Spaniards an advantage. It is better to cooperate.
Now it seems that Evans is still very sensible.
“We just wasted time because of some people’s interference. Now, we continue to introduce the details.” Qin Tao continued to speak.
An hour passed, and more than twenty minutes passed before Qin Tao introduced his aircraft carrier design in detail, and then looked at Rodriguez with a smile.
“Friends from Spain, it’s your turn now. Don’t worry, you can explain it boldly and I won’t interrupt you rudely.”
Rodriguez had a gloomy look on his face. When he typed up his slideshow of the aircraft carrier, everyone suddenly understood.
Why do Spanish people have this expression? Because they suffered a terrible loss!
(End of this chapter)