Chapter 1124: C919 and C929

"If we take everything into consideration, I think our two projects can be launched together!" Mr. Zhang thought of something and said excitedly: "Among them, a single-aisle mainline passenger aircraft with a maximum take-off weight of 72 tons will be developed by us. The maximum take-off weight exceeds The two-hundred-ton dual-aisle mainline passenger aircraft will be developed by the Mingzhou Group under Mr. Qin, which will completely solve the gap in the passenger aircraft field in our country!"

Two of them together!

I have to say that Mr. Zhang is brave enough.

The country has failed several times in large aircraft projects. Many people are cautious, fearing that something will go wrong. When they are making arguments, they only dare to argue that they should start with a 70-80 ton single-aisle mainline passenger aircraft, first accumulate strength, and then Say it again.

However, with the participation of Mr. Qin, we might as well do both together, single-aisle and double-aisle, 70 to 80 tons and more than 200 tons, all can be built together, so that domestically produced large passenger aircraft will soar into the sky!

"Lao Zhang, isn't this a bit wasteful? Do we need to establish two independent R&D departments for such a project?" Huang Lao frowned: "The research and development of passenger aircraft is too difficult, one team is enough."

Lao Zhang reacted: "Yes, it would be a bit wasteful to have two teams."

The research and development of passenger aircraft is very difficult. Even with domestically produced large transport aircraft, the research and development of passenger aircraft is still very difficult. Now it is very bold to do both together. If they are done separately, it will obviously cause a waste of research and development efforts.

“Then what should we do?”

"Of course we bring the two teams together." Mr. Huang said: "I suggest that we take Mingzhou Group as the main company and set up a special COMAC to build large passenger aircraft. This COMAC has two Aircraft research and development projects go hand in hand. During the research and development process, we can maximize our efforts to do big things, and the results of research and development can also be shared between the two."

 No matter the size of the aircraft, many of the equipment are the same, such as electronic equipment. The avionics equipment needed for civil aviation is the same. The cockpits of large aircraft and small aircraft have the same layout. These can be shared after they are developed.

Another example is the comfort of the aircraft, what kind of cabin layout, what kind of seats, how to design the portholes, all can be done together. If there are two companies, then they can work alone and cannot concentrate their efforts on big things.

"Are we the master?" Qin Tao smiled: "Although we have built fighter jets before, this is the first time for a large aircraft. We are blind. You make us the master because you want us to provide funding for the master, right? .”

The guy is very embarrassed.

The reason why Mingzhou Group was asked to participate was of course because Mingzhou Group, a big financial backer, was not short of money and could do anything with money.

If the country wants to do it, it has to demonstrate repeatedly. After all, it costs money and huge amounts of money. If it fails, it will be a huge loss of national property. If the Mingzhou Group is allowed to come forward, the huge investment can make the Mingzhou Group Come and the country will save money.

"If you want to build large aircraft, you will definitely need an aircraft factory. In our country, Huating Aircraft Factory is well-deserved. Mr. Qin, I think that if we want to build it, we can set up the COMAC base in Huating to give full play to Huating aircraft. With the advantage of the factory, our national team relies on Huating Aircraft Factory to invest in it, and your Mingzhou Group funds research and development, how about it?"

Huating Aircraft Manufacturing Factory has a long history. The Yun-10 was built from the Huating Aircraft Manufacturing Factory. This factory suddenly became the most important civil aviation aircraft manufacturer in China. Later, although the Yun-10 project only built three aircraft, it started again. We cooperated with McDonnell Douglas to assemble the McDonnell Douglas 82 passenger aircraft. The Huating Aircraft Manufacturing Factory also took the lead in the later AE100 passenger aircraft, and later the ARJ21 passenger aircraft. Although it is only the project development stage now, there is no doubt that the final production will also be at Huating Aircraft. Conducted in the factory.

Therefore, if the country wants to develop large passenger aircraft, it is most suitable to produce them at the Huating Aircraft Factory. This factory has been exposed to Western standards and has a large number of skilled technical personnel. Moreover, Huating is a big city and can easily attract talents to settle there.

The key is that the Huating Aircraft Factory is still ready. If a new COMAC is to be established, the state will use the Huating Aircraft Factory as equity capital, so there is no need to spend any money. The next investment will be from the Mingzhou Group. The above will definitely If you know how to make a decision, you won’t need to argue anything, just get started!

It is good for them no matter how you look at it, but what about the Mingzhou Group?

Qin Tao smiled: "This is also possible. We can ask someone to evaluate it to see how much the Huating Aircraft Factory is worth. Then we will evaluate the R&D investment and calculate the shares based on these. If our Mingzhou Group invests If it’s more, then this COMAC will be controlled by our Mingzhou Group, and we also have the power to appoint leaders of Huating Aircraft Factory.”

After saying this, the scene fell silent.

The two parties will certainly be able to unite their efforts to achieve great things, but they will also encounter a new problem: Who has the final say?

Mingzhou Group has always been consistent in its development. No matter which company it invests in, it will be an absolute controlling shareholder.

What about Huating Aircraft Factory?

Can this factory listen to Mr. Qin? This is a large factory in the aviation industry system, and the leaders inside are all very good and very powerful. But Mr. Qin didn't like it and just replaced them? Is this appropriate?

The research and development of aircraft requires huge amounts of funds!

At that time, Dongfang spent 537.7 million yuan to develop the Yun-10. In the end, it was unable to get approval for tens of millions of dollars in fuel costs. During the same period, the West's development of a civil aviation passenger aircraft cost at least 2 billion U.S. dollars. After the Yun-10 was discontinued, Dongfang started from The West purchases aircraft, spending US$143.8 billion on aircraft from the United States over the past 40 years.

Therefore, when talking about the tenth year of fortune, countless people will feel sad and sad. What if it was what it was back then. Unfortunately, there is no if. Qin Tao was reborn too late and was still engaged in shipbuilding, so he could not catch up with this project.

All kinds of expenses have increased over time. Later, how much the country spent on developing the C919 is a mystery. One of the most common sayings is that it cost 300 billion yuan, which shows how expensive it is to develop a large aircraft. money.

After so long of development, various subsystems are still imported. The engine is LEAP, the landing gear is Liebherr, the APU is Honeywell, the avionics is GE, the power supply is Hamilton Sundstrand, the hydraulic pressure is Eaton, and even the The lighting inside is all Goodrich. It's probably comparable to the high-speed rail toilets.

This is the C919, what about the C929?

Of course, developing large aircraft does cost money. Airbus is already a large and experienced company, and it spent more than 30 billion US dollars on the A380.

No matter what, it will definitely require a huge investment. If compared with the capital invested, the shares held by Huating Aircraft Factory will probably not exceed 10%, or even lower! Therefore, there is no problem for the Mingzhou Group to demand complete control of the Huating Aircraft Factory.

It’s just that if Mr. Qin reaches out to Huating Aircraft Factory, it will attract even greater criticism!

Having monopolized shipbuilding, will we monopolize aircraft manufacturing? There is no father-in-law of Mr. Qin in the aviation system. Those present are all technical people, but they also have to consider other influences.

Can Mr. Qin suffer some losses and only hold 49% of the shares? Of course not, it’s the new century, and the more money you pay, the more shares you’ll have. Does it need to be said? Why did Mr. Qin plunge into the abyss of the aviation industry system?

"Mr. Qin, are there any other plans?" Mr. Zhang asked in a dilemma.

"Yes." Qin Tao said: "Ermao plans to cooperate with us anyway, so we will directly cooperate with Ermao to form a joint research and development institution and build a large aircraft factory belonging to the Mingzhou Group to specialize in the production of this kind of large passenger aircraft. This will save the embarrassment of Huating Aircraft Factory being controlled by us."

Qin Tao is willing to spend money for the country's large aircraft project, but he has to make it worthwhile. If he spends a huge amount of money and ends up making wedding clothes for others, or even gets it into his own pocket by some people, then Why bother Qin Tao.

“Mr. Qin, your province is too poor to retain talented people.”

"Yes, your province is too poor, so our people will become the highest-paid people in the area. Even if their wages are not as good as those of Huating Aircraft Factory, their happiness index will be much higher." Qin Tao said: " Moreover, I also believe that people who are truly willing to fight for the country’s big plane will not care about their living environment.”

Mingzhou Group has always attached great importance to the interests of its employees and gives them the best treatment. However, if you really have ideals, you will not care about the environment. Whether it is Huating or Guizhou, as long as there are large aircrafts, they will Just go wherever you go. Mingzhou Group will not make less money, but it will make you happier if you stay in your province. Huating is an international metropolis with high housing prices, high cost of living and great temptation. In comparison, your province is more It is suitable for concentrating on research. Moreover, the factories of Mingzhou Group and the self-reliant Yunma Factory are both there. A huge aviation industry chain has been developed there and it has become bustling and lively. It is completely suitable for new aircraft factories to join.

Those who can go to Guizhou have ideals, and those who are willing to stay in Huating all have a pursuit of life. Therefore, the two different groups can be separated.

Obviously, if Mr. Qin sets up a new aircraft factory in your province, there will definitely be a siphon effect, and a large number of people from the Huating Aircraft Factory will go there.

At this time, everyone became even more silent after hearing Qin Tao's words.

"Mr. Qin, regarding these requests of yours, we will respond to our superiors." Mr. Huang finally said: "I believe that the leaders of Huating Aircraft Factory will understand that if they want our large passenger aircraft to take off, they need to make sacrifice."

Mingzhou Group will not suffer losses, so Huating Aircraft Factory will only suffer losses. According to the capital contribution ratio, Huating Aircraft Factory will be controlled by Mingzhou Group, and then they will have to listen to Mingzhou Group.

However, if you don’t listen, there will be no future. Mingzhou Group is very powerful. No matter what they do, they will be the strongest in the world. If they want to build a passenger aircraft, they will definitely build it. What will Huating Aircraft Factory do then?

Qin Tao nodded: "Of course, there are other options, such as the state funding and providing R&D funds to reduce the investment of our Mingzhou Group. If we want to invest 100 billion yuan in R&D, the state will provide half and we will provide Half. In this way, the new COMAC Group can be controlled by the state, and we have no objection. Of course, even if Huating Aircraft Factory disagrees, they can still manufacture aircraft according to our design drawings in the future. , we hand over the production tasks to them through outsourcing.”

No matter what, Mingzhou Group will not suffer a loss, and Huating Aircraft Factory also has more choices.

"Okay." Mr. Zhang nodded: "We will report President Qin's suggestions to the country. President Qin, should our planes have a name? Do you have any ideas?"

The name of the newly established company is COMAC. What about the name of the aircraft?

"The name of the aircraft must be numbers." Qin Tao said: "Boeing is all 7 or 7, Airbus is all 3 or more. Our numbers must be higher than theirs. Our numbers must start with 8 or 9. Airbus There is an A in front of it, and we will add a C in front of it. Is the first model called C818, or is it C919?"

It is very troublesome to come up with a name, but it is very simple to come up with a name. Just like now, it is easy to come up with a name. You only need to consider the rules in the industry and see what you have, and you will come up with it.

What does C mean? Of course it is the first letter of China, which is the first letter of our country's name. Of course, it can also be the English abbreviation of COMAC, which is the first letter of COMAC. In short, this C represents the motherland.

The name at the end must be higher than 7, either 8 or 9, it depends on the choice.

"818 is not good, it's too tacky, 9 is better. It will last forever. I hope our motherland's aviation industry can develop for a long time." Mr. Zhang said: "Moreover, our single-aisle mainline passenger aircraft is designed to carry a maximum passenger capacity of 190 people, which is just right. You can use the 19 at the back instead. As for a dual-aisle passenger plane, the minimum passenger capacity is 290, which can be C929."

Qin Tao nodded: "Okay, let's do that. Everyone, is our meeting almost done? Let me know the results at any time."

Mr. Zhang nodded: "The old leader said that only development can solve the difficulties and problems in our progress. We can only solve the problems by developing first. If we don't develop large aircraft, we will never be able to solve the problems. Qin In summary, we have now decided to develop, and we have encountered many problems, but we believe that we will be able to solve these problems!"

"Okay, I believe this too." Qin Tao nodded: "As a senior said, I will keep moving forward with my ambition; the more I get frustrated, the more excited I will be, and I will keep working hard!"

After leaving the large aircraft demonstration team, Qin Tao felt a little complicated.

“Brother Tao, are you worried about Huating Aircraft Factory?” Zhao Ling asked in the car.

Qin Tao smiled: "I don't know much about Huating Aircraft Factory. After all, we have never cooperated before. However, this is also a precautionary measure. After all, we have invested huge sums of money and must have a say. This is not only for us, but also for Big Aircraft Project.”

Qin Tao likes the feeling of having everything in his hands. He doesn't like to be manipulated by others. He spent a lot of money and was squeezed out in the end. You can see it everywhere.

“Brother Tao, if we don’t cooperate with Huating Aircraft Factory, we may not be accepted by the domestic civil aviation department.” Zhao Ling continued.

Huating Aircraft Factory is a subsidiary of the aviation industry. Although civil aviation is operated independently on the surface, it is actually endorsed by superiors and belongs to the national team. If we do not cooperate with them, how can we open up the market?

“We also have a fleet. The worst we can do is expand our fleet and do it ourselves.” Qin Tao said.

The Mingzhou Group is very large. It has transportation companies under it, covering various businesses on land, sea and air. Their logistics business has even developed all over the world. They also have a number of aircraft for air transportation. The An-225 transport plane often helps with air transportation. , but it doesn’t involve passenger transportation yet.

If the domestic civil aviation department doesn't buy it, then our Mingzhou Group's transportation company can also form a civil aviation company. Anyway, the country also allows the development of private airlines, and we will squeeze them out when the time comes!

Zhao Ling nodded. Since Brother Tao wants to do it, he will fully support him behind the scenes. He is just telling some possible situations that he may encounter. Of course, in fact, it may not be so bad.

"Brother Tao, there is another thing. Sister Cong Ju said that a customer came to the door and wanted to order a ro-ro ship with a load capacity of 20,000 tons." Zhao Ling said: "Our shipyard has never built this type of ship. Moreover, the other party is so demanding and is already number one in the world, so Sister Cong Ju wants to ask your opinion."

"Build it, why not build it." Qin Tao said: "Since there are customers coming, we have to take this business. We should also get involved in the ro-ro ship business."

For cargo ships, loading materials is very time-consuming. Many engineers have begun to think about how to reduce the loading and unloading time.

Container?

The emergence of containers is to reduce loading and unloading time. All boxes of unified standards are stacked on ships, which makes loading and unloading convenient. However, this also requires the help of cranes at the port, which is still not fast enough. It would be faster if the goods could be loaded and unloaded by themselves!

So, the ro-ro ship appeared. It transported vehicles and rolled into the cabin on wheels, so it was called a ro-ro ship.

If you go to Qiongzhou for a boat vacation, you will see almost all ro-ro ships, with cars on the bottom and people on the top. In the Yangtze River Basin, there are also a large number of ro-ro ships, and even trucks choose to take ships to save energy. .

However, these ro-ro ships are all single-layer. Ro-ro ships sailing on the ocean can be multi-layered, with many decks and ramps inside. After the vehicle enters, it is like entering a three-dimensional parking lot. Can dock on different decks.

It sounds like it is not difficult, but there is a big problem with ro-ro ships: the center of gravity. There are big and small cars on board, empty cars and heavy cars. If the balance cannot be done well, the center of gravity will shift to one side, and the ship will easily capsize. This is even more true on the ocean.

So, a ro-ro ship generally has a total weight of 10,000 to 20,000 tons. This kind of load capacity can reach 20,000 tons, and its own weight must also be 20,000 tons. That is a 40,000-ton ro-ro ship, which is not available in the world!

ˆ PS: There are four updates in total. Thank you for your great support!

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